What part of U.S.A. history is easily forgotten?

  1. The naval battles on the Great Lakes, piracy on the Great Lakes, and the nazi plot to destroy American aluminum plants during ww2

  2. History repeats. Back in the revolutionary war, It was very common for US soldiers to turn to piracy after the war. The USA was fragile and the government was in the brink of destruction. The treasury wasn't able to pay the soldiers after the war, so they felt there was no other way to live.

  3. The Battle of the Wabash in 1791, AKA Little Bighorn on steroids. The Federal Government tried to claim and sell the land of Indians in the Northwest Territory (modern day Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, etc.) to pay off its massive debts. They sent a force of 1000 men to evict the Indians but were met by 1100 warriors of the Northwestern Confederacy. Casualties for the American force were over 97%, about 25% of the entire US Army. Native casualties were about 5%, or 61 casualties in all. It was the worst defeat ever suffered by the US at the hands of Native Americans.

  4. Agreed, this period is where a lot of our political and societal norms were established. I had no idea now critical decisions made then impacted the nation. Not to mention the half dozen or so times the nation almost imploded. Heirs of the Founders by H.W. Brands is a great book on the subject.

  5. I’d argue 1870-1914 also leaves out very important parts. Fucking up reconstruction, the massacres against the natives, Roosevelts expansionist agenda and wars before becoming president (seriously, he almost singlehandedly engineered the US conquering the Philippines having Dewey seize Manilla), or any of the expansionist island capturing all over the world, first for bird poo, then as fuelling stations. Woodrow fucking Wilson’s sympathetic views towards the southern cause, reinstating the KKK, birth of a nation etc. He’s a top 5 bad president

  6. My favorite time period would be what they call “the Wild West” best period ever but history classes rarely cover that stuff unless it’s a class specified for that era

  7. And California, and Nevada, and parts of Colorado and Wyoming. The Guadalupe Hidalgo treaty ceded about a fourth of the continental US territory. Oregon's southern border used to be the US border.

  8. Yeah what’s up with that? I made it all the way through the almost abusively rigorous gifted program in my state and they didn’t even mention the Mexican-American war. In high school my teacher literally said “The Mexican war happened, but we don’t have time so we’re not gonna talk about it” and I’m like oh boy time to spend another month and learn about WWII a fourth time…

  9. That Hawaii was a recognized sovereign country, the queen having been received by Queen Victoria of England in 1887. In support of the Dole Corporation and other businessmen, a continent of US Marines staged a coup and overthrew the Hawaiian government. Queen Liliuokalani submitted peacefully, expecting the US President wouldn't stand for such imperialist behavior. Grover Cleveland did nothing, and his successor annexed Hawaii in 1898.

  10. It's disturbing how many Americans believe 1898 is "ancient history all in the past" and refuse to respect Native Hawaiians on a fundamental level.

  11. The story of the Cherokees! The U.S. took Cherokee land through essentially rigged treaties, disobeying the Constitution in the process. Note there were many people opposed to this taking of land, but still many more who promoted it.

  12. The inventor of solid rocket fuel, Jack Parsons,was a devoted follower Aliester Crowley and tried to usher the Antichrist into being with the help of his best buddy, L. Ron Hubbard.

  13. Wow. More elements of the film The Master are lining up for me after reading this. I’m guessing Phoenix’s character was meant to loosely mirror Jack Parsons.

  14. Lots of people in Richmond, Va know that it was set on fire in the Civil War. Fewer people know that Benedict Arnold also set it on fire in the Revolutionary War.

  15. In 1985 the Philly Police Dept. dropped a bomb on a residential neighborhood murdering 11 American civilians who lived there. Sixty one homes were destroyed. The fire department let it burn. Google the “MOVE bombing”.

  16. Sheeeeyt... Well, the MOVE members did open fire on the police, but how they handled the situation is, I dunno, weird as fuck? I'm frankly more confused than I'm shocked.

  17. Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and English indentured servitude in the mid 1700s while US was still the colonies and then early 1900s when there was a lot of immigration from Ireland and Italy through Ellis Island. Still don’t understand how people were so mean to them back then when a lot of the citizens at the time were descendants of immigrants. Guess that still stands today…

  18. That Christopher Columbus was an idiotic mass murderer who thought the world was pear shaped and did nothing but go from island to island slaughtering the native inhabitants

  19. Before the Civil War where northern congressmen were often subject to emotional abuse, death threats, duels and assassinations so that they would not legally question slavery

  20. Sharecropping, Carpetbagging...this was a willfully CRUEL time that KEPT African-Americans disenfranchised that NO ONE mentions. In some ways (very few, I'll stress because slavery was obviously horrific) it was WORSE than slavery because during this time, the landowners had no real incentive to keep their indentured "sharecropper" workers healthy or alive- when they died, they were just replaced and were effectively "enslaved" by debt.

  21. I think that depends on where you live. I grew up in Virginia. At least half of history class of devoted to the Civil War and Reconstruction. The other half was about how awesome Thomas Jefferson was.

  22. Idk… my school went very in depth on reconstruction and the impacts on race. Maybe my school is the exception to the norm… I’m in a 97% white town (and I’m not white) but the town’s also very liberal

  23. While it is widely taught, I think the whole Articles of Confederation period is often forgotten. Many people think that after the Revolutionary War ended, Washington instantly became President. When in fact, he was struggling to turn around operations at Mt. Vernon after many years of neglect (he was preoccupied with some other significant business in the late 70s).

  24. I think the first one you mentioned is extremely important. I benefited a lot from my grandpa using the GI bill after the war. If black vets got the same, there would be a lot of black families today in a better situation.

  25. Historically, this was yesterday. The people who fought the civil rights movement are still around. They had kids and passed their bullshit on to them.

  26. He had radical views? I’d like to know about these. Also, I’m 16 turning 17 in less than a month, but I know full well about this stuff. Dr.MLK Jr. was always taught and celebrated throughout basically every one of my school years except probably preschool. Grew up in Florida btw.

  27. My AP class in high school went pretty deep here; progressive movement, labor, women's rights, (most would probably at least cover women's voting).

  28. Coal Wars. Series of conflicts between miners and the corporations that owned the mines in Appalachia and some in Colorado culminating in 1921. Miners wanted things like safety regulations, a union, and to be paid with US currency so the coal companies hired essentially a small army ran by Baldwin-Felt. Think the Pinkertons from Red Dead. Instead of giving up the miners armed themselves and made fortified locations in the mountains and armed conflict started. Ended when the coal companies asked the government for help so the US army started bombing the miners and the towns the miners families lived in. Also just throwing in that the miners didn’t fortify the towns just the army making a point I guess.

  29. When the CIA funneled money though the Dalai Lama to fund a guerilla war against the Chinese based out of Upper Mustang, Nepal.

  30. Tulsa massacre. I never learned about it until I was in my late 20s. Such a huge and disgusting part of our history and it is almost never taught.

  31. This one I think has finally become common knowledge, at least on Reddit, since they made a show about it and it always comes up in these topics. AP history taught it to me in HS but all my friends in the general history classes never learned it.

  32. A smaller part of the larger "Seven Years War", which was a global war between Britain and France. The "French and Indian War" was the British and French using their North American colonies, with both sides also drawing help from various Native American tribes. It was basically a huge, costly war over territory.

  33. To add on, the name "America" was originally coined for the entire New World of Canada-to-Chile. That is why many Spanish and Portuguese speakers today consider themselves "Americans" on one continent. It was not until after World War II that the USA monopolized the connotation of "American" for themselves as a form of petty imperialism.

  34. I think this entire period is very interesting. I wish we had learned more about it in school. Saw a documentary about it and sorta went down a rabbit hole lol.

  35. Overt racism in the mid twentieth century. Hard to believe how so many white people treated people of color that badly in our lifetimes.

  36. Tulsa Oklahoma Race Massacre. An angry mob burned down 35 blocks of a prosperous, predominantly black, neighborhood in a matter of hours. Greenwood, aka Black Wall Street was turned into ashes. The city of Tulsa still mostly refuses to talk about it. The Oklahoma public school system didn’t even implement it until the late 90s. The National Guard reports and files were missing. To this day, many people don’t know about it although hundreds of people died.

  37. Probably the effect that unions had as well as the Granger Movement. Labor strikes, Pinkerton agents, and so forth seem to be forgotten.

  38. The fact that our European ancestors didn't all learn American English immediately when they immigrated and that in many churches in the Midwest, services were in German, Norwegian, French, Polish and others, slowly dwindling to only 1 Sunday per month in the 1940s. My elderly Norwegian neighbor told me that when her teacher told the class to speak English at home, She remembered walking home thinking that would be stupid, "Because nobody would understand a "ting" I was talking about!"

  39. When my church's music Minister's father died my youth choir (for middle school and high school kids) joined the adult choir in performing a song at the funeral. During the funeral someone told the story of her father's marriage, it was in German but he didn't speak a word. This was somewhere in MT (this was quite awhile ago, I was about 13, maybe 14 at the time of the funeral).

  40. We love to look down our noses at things like the holocaust and apartheid, but people forget we committed genocide here too and we had internment camps of our own.

  41. They were not labor camps, they were internment camps. You aren’t wrong though. Many people do not know about them. They were terrible.

  42. False information, they were holding camps to attempt to find and exploit potential spies and criminals with an allegiance to Imperial Japan. False.

  43. Spain assisted in the US revolution in exchange to getting Florida back from Brittian. Then the US later just kind of took it over.

  44. When Britain and the US almost went to war over some small islands off the coast of Washington state because an American shot a pig that a British dude really liked.

  45. The genocide of Native Americans followed by all the interventions in Central and South America for the sake of corporations. America's border/illegal immigration problems were created by those interventions and propping up right wing dictators.

  46. I highly recommend listening to History That Doesn’t Suck. It is a podcast by Professor Greg Jackson. He is a professor at a university in Utah and does a phenomenal job of delivering a well researched, accurate telling of American history in the form of stories. His catch phrase at the beginning of every episode is “Let me tell you a story…” He does a good job of keeping it fair and balanced. Lots of focus on the nuances of controversial figures.

  47. That Michigan and Ohio literally had a war over the Toledo strip which is how the U.P. Became part of Michigan. Jokes on Ohio, it was a fucking gold mine

  48. During the Civil War, the skirmishes between proslavery Missourians and Abolitionist Kansans was so bad they evacuated the border between the states.

  49. I honestly think the most forgotten part of large American wars was the Spanish-American War, It was kind of doomed being it was only 15 years before world war 1, and usually its forgotten

  50. The brief period we had troops in Russia during the Russian Civil War, along with the British. I don't think the Soviets forgot it though.

  51. That the USA was Hitlers biggest inspiration. USA made the race theorie popular and they gased and burned Mexicans, because it was cheap. This inspired Hitler, dispite the fact he hated the USA.

  52. They tried to help Pol Pot (dictator) take over Cambodia which resulted in at least 5 million deaths, making the life expectancy hit 18 years old at one point.

  53. Claudette was pregnant and unmarried and would have been bad PR so they got RP to do it. How sucky is that though?

  54. How our ancestors were treated as Irish settlers in America. They were worse than the scum accumulated on the pot to piss in. We forget how classes were alive and still alive today.

  55. I just listened to a podcast about how the US military hired Mad Men (think Don Draper in advertising) during the Vietnam War to sound engineer spooky ghost sounds screaming and crying.

  56. The fact they in fact actually did (LOSE) a war but yuh know they never bring up the war of 1812 anymore because they lost 🤣

  57. The hangings of Native Americans in Minnesota ordered by Abraham Lincoln. Im not sure if they committed crimes, but i heard that a younger boy who was Native was also set to be hanged but he has too short.

  58. How, before entering WW2, many Americans were outspokenly in support of the Nazis. We only entered the war on the side of the good guys because Japan, who was Germany's ally, bombed Pearl Harbor out of nowhere and pissed us off.

  59. Not that I'm saying you don't have a point, but how many countries truly are run by direct ancestors of their land's original settlers? How long ago must the current people have been there for it to not count anymore? For example, modern day France was originally occupied by Celtric tribes, conquered by invading Romans and then Franks, and eventually became the kingdom of France.

  60. The years following and preceding the civil war I think. How much do you know about Buchanan, Johnson , Grant, etc? That'd be my guess

  61. I grew up less than 40 miles from where the Tuskegee Experiments took place. I didn’t know anything about it until I researched it myself after high school because Dave Chappelle talked about it

  62. I taught science, in particular Public Health, and did a whole unit on medical ethics. High School, 2003-2020.

  63. The US killed an estimated 18% of North Koreans through strategic bombing campaigns in the Korean War, just short of 1 out of every 5 people in that country and the US to this day has a hard time getting why "the hermit kingdom" doesn't like them. Oh and yea, this was after studies by the Department of Defense had conclusively shown that such mass casualty campaigns had minimal positive impact in actually ending and/or winning wars..

  64. Any part that makes us uncomfortable when it challenges our leaders’ narrative that we are the greatest nation in history and the envy of the world.

  65. About how Europeans killed over 100 million native Americans and almost wiped thier population off the planet and then we celebrate the man who did it, I’m not even one of those get rid of Christopher Columbus Day people I could honestly care less but it’s still kinda fucked up

  66. We didn't kill 100 million, disease did. those diseases hit well before Europe, or anywhere else, understood germ theory. Columbus likely didn't kill more than a few thousand on his own.

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