The mystery of awareness

  1. It absolutely baffles me that awareness exists. Even if the scientific explanations exist for it, it's very surprising that such a thing can exist in this world. It would make sense to have a world where there's just elements, stars and other celestial objects in space, just a place where things happen, but awareness? That is some seriously next level magic.

  2. Yes truely! Without it the universe is dead and nothing is experienced. In a way awareness creates the universe and there is no doubt about that. But maybe this is litterally true aswell, who knows.

  3. “Why are you so sure that others have this first person view as well? You cannot be so sure. Actually you can never know.”

  4. The “hard problem of consciousness” I believe is a real thing and most philosophers do too. It’s a pretty specific claim that proposes that there is for now an explanatory gap between subjective experiences and neural processing. One can for now at most say that subjective experiences correlates with neural processing, for example that the experience of “blueness” correlates with a certain type of processing pattern in the brain but beyond that the explanation of how the neural processing creates the experience is something we don’t have, we can only say that they correlate, hence the gap.

  5. Yes and with the experience you mean that observer right? The observer that experiences time and subjectivity. This observer is unexplainable by science and philosophy when we have a materialistic worldview.

  6. Awareness is basically the sensing the changes in sensory information. Getting sensory information, like hearing sound for instance, is not awareness. Awareness means an active focus on the senses. With awareness sounds can be identified and filtered. Awareness can get hyperfocused, in case of sound one can identify instruments, rhythms or a specific note. This could trigger a memory for instance and awareness may slip but one could still remain conscious inside a memory. When becoming aware of this memory it will likely cause the memory to stop when we refocus of the music. Or one could focus on the memory and explore the details.

  7. Exactly, but what you are saying could also be experienced in a 3rd person view. For example I can be sure that other animals fo this aswell. However what I mean I can not be sure that other people or animals have this aswell. Its that hard problem that you cannot prove for others but I can for the self.

  8. To physicalist theories, consciousness is something of an embarrassment. The universe could perfectly well run in the dark without the need for consciousness, yet here we are, conscious. Why is consciousness there at all? How did it get there? Where is it coming from?

  9. Yes exactly, it is so wierd that it exist. But in truth without it nothing is experience and in a way nothing exists.

  10. Yes, time exists with out us. We are not that important. The same way a falling tree always makes a noise. Natural processes do not stop in the absence of humans.

  11. I am not talking about humans, I am talking about the observer. What is reality without an observer. Time only exist when experienced. When time is not experienced it is instant.

  12. Good question. It did at least not exist as we do experience time. So it did not exist like we think it existed.

  13. I would say that the body and the brain are one and that they are not distinct. I would also say that both of these are within my conciousness and not the way around.

  14. No, time doesn't exist without an observer, ALTHOUGH the observer doesn't have to be conscious. We know that the universe 13.8B years old, and life on Earth is only 3.5B. Things happaned before than, and we can only make sense of them if we differentiate between what happaned before, and after that something happaned. This was a mess. I meant that the Earth formed 4.5B years ago, and the Solar system did it sooner, so there was time.

  15. Conciousness forms when the brain is in a certain state of performance. We don't have conciousness when we are born, yet the first months we clearly evolve and the time marks its presence into our future for us to develop it later.

  16. You are not sure about that. What you are discribing here is memory. Memory doesnt evolve in the brain untill a certain moment. We do not know when conciousness is started.

  17. Self consciousness or awareness as you put it, is a side effect of high processing neural systems. An intelligent animal is to be self aware, to an extent. One is to find an animal that recognises itself as a reflection in a mirror, not another individual. But such abstractions, pertaining why questions, self reference queries, are limited to humans as far as our knowledge. The complex the information processing unit is (brain or SoC), the complexity of its curiosity upon itself and its circumstances, including time. In itself, self awareness does not have an intrinsic evolutionary purpose. For evolution, if developing a brain with enough processing power, would eventually ponder upon abstractions. Evolution, as a natural solution to preserve life in an ever changing environment, does not necessarily end up developing self aware capable brains for every species or as the ending result. Hence, it is a side effect. Not an objective.

  18. I see what you are writing about. However Self-awareness of a distinct animal is not truely what I meant. You can compare this self awareness by taking a computer that processing the processing of information. It is just an extra dimention within the brain which causes humans to have more intelligence. This defenitly has evolutionary benefits as this is what sets us apart from other animals (look what we have achieved by this).

  19. The “hard problem of consciousness” I believe is a real thing and most philosophers do too and it seems to be a big part of what OP is touching upon here.

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