Depends on the contractual construct. Swedish orgs love to employ their players in player owned shell orgs, making them self employed. If they get sick and leave, it's their problem. The government also limits it's sick payments. If you get paid in what is worth 20k$ per month, your sick leave wount be anything close to that. Maximum is 80% of 483 000 SEK a year, which is something like 36.000$ a year.
In Norway at least, the government picks up the tab after 16 days of absence caused by sickness, if I remember correctly. I would imagine the law is quite similar in Sweden. I don't know if that is what has happened, or if there are potential for contractual exceptions where he would receive nothing at all
It depends on his wealth. If he has a lot of money in his bank account or assets, he gets nothing from the government either. It might very well be he got nothing and lived off his own savings.
I said this in another thread a while back, after the initial 1-2 weeks the employer no longer pays your salary but the government does up to a maximum cap of ~4K euro a month, this isn't shady or classic nip shit, this is the law and the way it is for every single company out there. You should be glad it's even 4K since Sweden still has some socialism for the people left. In America you have 5 sick days and then your ass is on the street.
In Denmark it's 50/50 between company and government when it comes to sick leave of longer durations, but as NiP is swedish and Device was located in Sweeden at the same time, I'd imagine that it would follow swedish law
He was living in Sweden at the time. In order to get sick leave, he would have to get a doctors word for it; You can't just say "Well, Im sick, too bad".
The whole financial situation is complex as fuck. I'm not sure if he's even eligible for sick pay. He's most likely self-employed (independent contractor with his own company) being paid indirectly by NIP. He's wealthy. He moved out of the country shortly after going on leave. I'm not familiar with Swedish law but it could mean he's either not eligible or getting limited benefits. Not to mention you usually can't just say "I want sick pay" and get it.
The regular bigots here are going to cry anyway. Device at this point would still have paid more than enough in taxes to cover however much he may have earned in sick pay.
While this is true, being swedish myself the doctor will most likely find whatever reason. I straight up got asked once how long i wanted to be put on sick leave whereas i was like "well isnt it up to you to determine wether or not i even need it?"
As a swede, I fully support him and his decision to go back to Denmark. Sure, I would've loved to see what device NIP would have been capable of. But the entire reason for it all was for him to live with his girlfriend and not have to commute daily to Copenhagen.
So now where are all the haters when it's proven dev1ce had actual medical issues and was also not getting paid so we can't even call him a paycheck stealer?
way too many people give a shit about paychecks for money that isnt even theirs. I could give two fucks about whether he's getting paid. I've seen so many people accuse multiple players of that shit. Your paycheck is between you and your employer. lol
Good on device for responding to teenagers who don't understand the importance of mental health. I knew this sub's opinion of him would shift once the truth came out, and I'm glad it did. Device haters will keep seething and coping.
Because he didn't have a big public breakdown like our American boy that shall not be named I guess people will just never believe he had actual issues he needed to work through.
Since he specifies nip didn't pay him, I would presume government or someone else did? So I would like to propose tax stealer as the new word instead of paycheck stealer.
He was either not paid at all, or paid by the government. So he probbably "stole" a few percent of all the tax he paid for being a GOAT throughout his carreer back :)
can someone explain the narrative around dev1ce and nip and not make it out to be he broke up with his girlfriend and didnt want to stay in sweden/nip anymore
This subreddit just keeps taking so many Ls with the stupid narratives they believe. K0nfig was the real victim. Dev1ce robbed NiP. Hooxi is a great IGL. Maybe stories involving Danish players just cause people to get really stupid.
I imagine he was paid by the government because of being on sick leave? Or is it a classic Nothing In Paypal situation.
Depends on the contractual construct. Swedish orgs love to employ their players in player owned shell orgs, making them self employed. If they get sick and leave, it's their problem. The government also limits it's sick payments. If you get paid in what is worth 20k$ per month, your sick leave wount be anything close to that. Maximum is 80% of 483 000 SEK a year, which is something like 36.000$ a year.
In Norway at least, the government picks up the tab after 16 days of absence caused by sickness, if I remember correctly. I would imagine the law is quite similar in Sweden. I don't know if that is what has happened, or if there are potential for contractual exceptions where he would receive nothing at all
It depends on his wealth. If he has a lot of money in his bank account or assets, he gets nothing from the government either. It might very well be he got nothing and lived off his own savings.
I said this in another thread a while back, after the initial 1-2 weeks the employer no longer pays your salary but the government does up to a maximum cap of ~4K euro a month, this isn't shady or classic nip shit, this is the law and the way it is for every single company out there. You should be glad it's even 4K since Sweden still has some socialism for the people left. In America you have 5 sick days and then your ass is on the street.
Still that would be a tiny fraction of his normal salary
He was not most players have their own company and the org plays the players company and they öay themselves from there.
What’s nothing in PayPal?
In Denmark it's 50/50 between company and government when it comes to sick leave of longer durations, but as NiP is swedish and Device was located in Sweeden at the same time, I'd imagine that it would follow swedish law
Most of this subreddit is stuck in the 80s on that kind of topic, it's worthless arguing with them.
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to preempt the ‘well he’s a tax stealer then’ comments
He was living in Sweden at the time. In order to get sick leave, he would have to get a doctors word for it; You can't just say "Well, Im sick, too bad".
The whole financial situation is complex as fuck. I'm not sure if he's even eligible for sick pay. He's most likely self-employed (independent contractor with his own company) being paid indirectly by NIP. He's wealthy. He moved out of the country shortly after going on leave. I'm not familiar with Swedish law but it could mean he's either not eligible or getting limited benefits. Not to mention you usually can't just say "I want sick pay" and get it.
The regular bigots here are going to cry anyway. Device at this point would still have paid more than enough in taxes to cover however much he may have earned in sick pay.
While this is true, being swedish myself the doctor will most likely find whatever reason. I straight up got asked once how long i wanted to be put on sick leave whereas i was like "well isnt it up to you to determine wether or not i even need it?"
I mean dudes been paying Swedish/Danish tax on his salary and prize winnings, at least hes getting some of it back
As a swede, I fully support him and his decision to go back to Denmark. Sure, I would've loved to see what device NIP would have been capable of. But the entire reason for it all was for him to live with his girlfriend and not have to commute daily to Copenhagen.
He was actually looking quite good on NiP too, really sad that it didn't work out.
What an absolutely level-headed and based take. That's so refreshing, thanks :)
This revelation will not have any impact, since all the "device paycheck stealer" people are too dumb to read anyway
I just don’t give a shit anymore. Just get in a server device
So now where are all the haters when it's proven dev1ce had actual medical issues and was also not getting paid so we can't even call him a paycheck stealer?
You’re right, but also I feel like the infermation should have been put out there
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This sub is on a roll of assuming the worst and criticising for something they don't know about.
Fair.
Maybe he doesn't want to come back because of toxic the csgo community is.
If you have enough IQ to play CS in the highest level, you should know to never take into account some random stupid comments of this sub
Nothing in PayPal
let's watch the hate train go backwards as people blame NIP now.
So uh, has any journo have interviewed Stewie yet and ask him about being a paycheck stealer according to the internet?
Stewie just wishes everyone would leave him THE FUCK ALONE 😡😭
way too many people give a shit about paychecks for money that isnt even theirs. I could give two fucks about whether he's getting paid. I've seen so many people accuse multiple players of that shit. Your paycheck is between you and your employer. lol
You mean you couldn't give two fucks?
No salary just sick pay.
?? how is that possible
Sick leave so probably government paid his salary.
"European" law.
Not if you are G2 Rekkles, he got 2% while benched
0 salary for not playing one single match?
there are things such as paid sick leaves
Bro came in, ruined Nawkk's tier 1 career and hamstrung old Astralis rival NIP, all for free...
Tf is wrong with this sub? Lay of him. Dude burned out. Getting help. Hopefully will be back one day
NiP and not paying players, name a better duo
Good on device for responding to teenagers who don't understand the importance of mental health. I knew this sub's opinion of him would shift once the truth came out, and I'm glad it did. Device haters will keep seething and coping.
Because he didn't have a big public breakdown like our American boy that shall not be named I guess people will just never believe he had actual issues he needed to work through.
Since he specifies nip didn't pay him, I would presume government or someone else did? So I would like to propose tax stealer as the new word instead of paycheck stealer.
On what grounds would you presume that?
Yeah, because they gave him money for 1 year without any checks on his health, damn, such a nice country!!
You have until we get into Nato, after that we are "aLliEs". Danksjävel.
NiP being NiP once again?
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He very likely paid more in tax than he got in return
You know this? Do you have a source?
Lmao, plot twist
So he was paid by someone else?
He was either not paid at all, or paid by the government. So he probbably "stole" a few percent of all the tax he paid for being a GOAT throughout his carreer back :)
can someone explain the narrative around dev1ce and nip and not make it out to be he broke up with his girlfriend and didnt want to stay in sweden/nip anymore
Thats good all is forgiven device lets see you play for astralis now!
Försäkringskassa - hello, are you there?
Yeah NiP probably haven't paid him anything, but were they paying his corporation anything?
He doesn't need to address this negative comment in my opinion.
This subreddit just keeps taking so many Ls with the stupid narratives they believe. K0nfig was the real victim. Dev1ce robbed NiP. Hooxi is a great IGL. Maybe stories involving Danish players just cause people to get really stupid.
And we should believe that ? xD
hard to believe but ok
That's less a good thing about dev1ce and moreso a mark against NIP tho.
Just anoter thread to spread hate. At this point, this situation shouldn't even be open in reddit again.
nobody should care about this.