Yeah. After the qualifying any time one of his challengers got close to him, something's got messed up. Elliott spun, Chastain and Bell had bad pitstops.
Hall of fames in anything are kind of dumb, but especially in sports, which are already statistics driven. They just divide drivers into two classes: HOF and non-HOF. It's obvious any champion will be in. Guys like Edwards will be on the fence, but how much is it really worth anyways?
He was guaranteed that when he won his first title. Rookie of the Year, Daytona 500 winner, 30-time cup winner, 2-time champion, he's achieved more than half the people already in the hall of fame. He'll be first-ballot pick the day he decides to retire.
Not a Logano fan, but his future HoF induction is without question. I think he is still capable of several more championships and he'll definitely collect more double digit wins for his career stats.
Logano was a HoF before this title. He has over 30 Cup wins, a Cup title and a Daytona 500 win. If Buddy Baker, Dale Jr and others are in, Logano was a lock.
Without a doubt, first ballot guy, he's not done yet either. So happy for that dude, I know people hate him but he's an absolute beast behind the wheel. So glad he's well on his way to surpassing anything Matt Kenseth did.
The only exception would be a flash in the pan type of occurrence (which hasn't happened in cup) where you come in win the cup then leave in a very short period. Although that accomplishment could also be seen as a reason to be inducted.
Forget HOF. The bigger question is the odds of him becoming an all timer. 2 time winner and he’s still just 32. He’s got a good 10-12 prime years left. He wins 2 more titles in that time? Which is EASILY possible? Guy will bar none go down as the best driver since Jimmie Johnson.
Joey who I myself am not a fan of is possibly one of the best all-around stock car drivers ever. Think about the races and the different style cars he has won in and has been the first person to win races in news cars(Gen styles) and tracks as the first person(Bristol, LA) in a lot of things. I have to give him credit his ability to adapt and progress with the new tech and products each year is pretty amazing and not noticed enough.
Anyone with two titles should automatically get in. Other than Bill Rexford and the guys that are currently ineligible to be inducted (all of them locks to get in), everyone with a title is in the HoF.
Yeah he’s definitely a hall of fame driver. Two championships by age 32. Over 30 wins. He typically racks up a couple of wins a season so if he drives for another ten years that’s another 30 wins. He should probably be able to make the 50-win club. Just that alone with two championships is a shoe in.
I'd say he was already one but definitely one now...he's only the second driver to have multiple championships in a ford...the other driver was David Pearson and he got his last of three in 1969
Give it 50 years, if nascar is even still around and hall of fame selection will be much more rigorous. Nascar just doesn’t have a ton of drivers compared to things like the amount of NFL players.
The problem is on their insistence to induct 5 people every year. First 2 classes should've been 5, but after that it should've been maybe 3, or they use a system similar to the MLB HoF.
Why is this phrased as if it’s in question? Any Cup champion is automatically in at some point. There are drivers with 0 championships that are in because of their success and their impact on the sport.
I wonder how many people would've predicted this discussion to happen after being let go by Joe Gibbs Racing 10 years ago. It's insane how much he's risen as a driver since being the weakest link of the team and how much he elevated the struggling 22 team when he joined.
The word “fame” is sure thrown around freely. Let’s create a hall of “way better than average” for guys like Joey unless he truly dominates for a few years like Earnhart, Sr, Gordon, Petty and a few others.
In 501 Cup starts her has 31 wins, 149 top 5's(29%), 257 top 10's(51%), 2 championships, 1 second place points finish, 6 total top 5 points finishes(out of 14 full seasons) and 9 top 10 points finishes. His worst points finish since leaving Gibbs(where he was 18-22 years old) has been 17th, with all of the other years being 9th or better. Also remember that he's only 32 years old and could certainly go for 10 more years at the Cup level and likely be very competitive.
But Sam Ard was one of the best at the level he did compete in, even when some of the best that came "down" to his division he still competed with and could beat them.
Wtf? Richie Evans is hands down one of the best if not the greatest NASCAR Modified driver ever. Mike Stefanik is a 9X NASCAR champion (7 in Mods, two in Busch North).
He was a lock with his one title.
and Daytona 500 and All Star Race victories
Yeah. After the qualifying any time one of his challengers got close to him, something's got messed up. Elliott spun, Chastain and Bell had bad pitstops.
Hall of fames in anything are kind of dumb, but especially in sports, which are already statistics driven. They just divide drivers into two classes: HOF and non-HOF. It's obvious any champion will be in. Guys like Edwards will be on the fence, but how much is it really worth anyways?
If anything this just 100% solidifies him as a first ballot guy.
Carl Edwards with 28 wins is currently the eligible driver with the most wins not to be inducted into the HOF. Joey's already over that.
Did they count Jeff Gordon's small return? I don't remember.
Carl Edwards shouldn't get in the HOF for many, many years. Much more deserving people.
I think Rooster needs to get in just for being such a bada**.
I heard on SiriusXM it wouldn’t effect Jimmie’s eligibility at all
Winston Kelly was asked about that at the GMS Announcement and he said it would not affect his eligibility
He was locked already with his previous Championship, Daytona 500, youngest NASCAR cup winner, etc.
He was a lock already.
Plus, he's just a nice guy.
Tony Stewart is a top 10 all timer? I’d be happy to hear that argument.
He was a sure-bet hall of famer with one title, as all other champions are.
Already was
It’s still crazy that Joey is only 32…..he can have probably 15-16 years left if he stays healthy.
Depending on how the championship is crowned within the next two decades, I legitimately think he could come close to winning 7.
Zero chance he's racing full-time in cup at age 47.
Has been since 2018 (at the latest)
He was guaranteed that when he won his first title. Rookie of the Year, Daytona 500 winner, 30-time cup winner, 2-time champion, he's achieved more than half the people already in the hall of fame. He'll be first-ballot pick the day he decides to retire.
1 championship basically locks you in
unless your Bill Rexford.
He was before yesterday, he definitely is now.
Already was.
Not a Logano fan, but his future HoF induction is without question. I think he is still capable of several more championships and he'll definitely collect more double digit wins for his career stats.
Logano was a HoF before this title. He has over 30 Cup wins, a Cup title and a Daytona 500 win. If Buddy Baker, Dale Jr and others are in, Logano was a lock.
He was a lock in 2018
Without a doubt, first ballot guy, he's not done yet either. So happy for that dude, I know people hate him but he's an absolute beast behind the wheel. So glad he's well on his way to surpassing anything Matt Kenseth did.
he already was tbh
He was a HoFer before Sunday. This just cements first ballot.
I think if you’ve won a title your Hall of Fame material regardless.
Certainly depends on how you define “fame”
The only exception would be a flash in the pan type of occurrence (which hasn't happened in cup) where you come in win the cup then leave in a very short period. Although that accomplishment could also be seen as a reason to be inducted.
He was a hall of famer since 2018 at least. This is just solidifying his case.
Now? He's been one since 2018 IMO.
Yes
Yes
Hes only 32 already has 2 titles and 31 wins plenty of time to add to that too….what he needs is some more crown jewel wins.
Forget HOF. The bigger question is the odds of him becoming an all timer. 2 time winner and he’s still just 32. He’s got a good 10-12 prime years left. He wins 2 more titles in that time? Which is EASILY possible? Guy will bar none go down as the best driver since Jimmie Johnson.
Set aside the hate, and look at logic and numbers, guys have gotten in with less (Dale Jr for instance) and he could be seen as a hall of famer
Jr is one of the "cant tell the story of the sport without this guy" entries.
In defense for Jr, you also have to take into account his success as an owner too.
Joey who I myself am not a fan of is possibly one of the best all-around stock car drivers ever. Think about the races and the different style cars he has won in and has been the first person to win races in news cars(Gen styles) and tracks as the first person(Bristol, LA) in a lot of things. I have to give him credit his ability to adapt and progress with the new tech and products each year is pretty amazing and not noticed enough.
Already was before yesterday
He’s been one for years now….
Of course.
He’s only going to pad his stats, I can see him getting 1 or 2 more titles. He’s gonna be a Top 10 all time driver
Why wouldn't he be considered?
With Logano's age and ability, I see him as a 4 or 5 time champion before its all said and done. Definitely HOF worthy.
He was a lock as soon as Randy Lajoie dubbed him "Sliced Bread."
Wasn’t that Mark Martin?
He's been a HOFer ever since Mark Martin called him "Sliced Bread". We are just now finding out what Mark always knew.
Anyone with two titles should automatically get in. Other than Bill Rexford and the guys that are currently ineligible to be inducted (all of them locks to get in), everyone with a title is in the HoF.
He was already one
I'm feasting on this thread
Kinda figured the first sealed the deal. Are there even any eligible cup champions NOT in the hall of fame?
I think he was always going to be, this pretty much cements it
Now? He's been for a while I'd say.
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Truex also has two Coke 600s and a Southern 500.
If you get a win and spend 10years in cup the hall of fame isn’t particularly exclusive.
I mean the bar for the HOF is pretty low.
Winning a one race “championship” shouldn’t and does not affect your legacy. He was a lock before he finished 2 spots in front of Ross today.
"Shouldnt" you can feel free to debate, but "does not" is totally wrong. For better or worse, the current championship is still what matters
Yes
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Yeah he’s definitely a hall of fame driver. Two championships by age 32. Over 30 wins. He typically racks up a couple of wins a season so if he drives for another ten years that’s another 30 wins. He should probably be able to make the 50-win club. Just that alone with two championships is a shoe in.
He was before this.
2 titles is automatic “IN” for sure.
He already was. First ballot now.
He was before since he’s got better numbers than Bobby Labonte but he also has better or equal numbers to Terry Labonte in 300 fewer races.
Already was! But even more so now
Yes, and he’s just 32. He will have more stats to pad an already HOF career.
He was already a HoFer before this season
He was even with the 2018 title.
Yup
Already was
I'd say he was already one but definitely one now...he's only the second driver to have multiple championships in a ford...the other driver was David Pearson and he got his last of three in 1969
Already was
Once you get a title youre in
Bro pretty much everybody that did anything at all gets in.
He already was. And that's coming from someone who strongly dislikes him.
Give it 50 years, if nascar is even still around and hall of fame selection will be much more rigorous. Nascar just doesn’t have a ton of drivers compared to things like the amount of NFL players.
The problem is on their insistence to induct 5 people every year. First 2 classes should've been 5, but after that it should've been maybe 3, or they use a system similar to the MLB HoF.
Why is this phrased as if it’s in question? Any Cup champion is automatically in at some point. There are drivers with 0 championships that are in because of their success and their impact on the sport.
now? already was buddy
He was a lock prior to yesterday. Now the question will be where he ends up amongst the all-time greats. Not even in his prime years as a driver yet.
Everyone say it with me!
Idk how people don’t get that yet
unless you are Bill Rexford which is a bunch of crap that he isn’t.
This isn't even a debate. He locked himself into the HOF in 2018 with the title win. This just pushes him further up the list of NASCAR greats.
If you have 1 title, you’re a lock
In my opinion he already was. 30 cup wins, cup title, 2015 Daytona 500 champion. That pretty much locks you in.
Good chance he already was. Now there's no debate.
He was already before this but now he’s surely first ballot
Was thinking the same thing
He already was. He’s a first ballot HOFer now
He was a hall of famer before this even in my non-fan opinion, but he has definitely cemented himself now.
Would be crazy if he got more titles than Gordon....
No question first ballot.
Stone Cold Lock.
I wonder how many people would've predicted this discussion to happen after being let go by Joe Gibbs Racing 10 years ago. It's insane how much he's risen as a driver since being the weakest link of the team and how much he elevated the struggling 22 team when he joined.
He's already a top 25 driver of all time with his accolades at 32 years old.
He already was, but yes.
Already was, if he wins another he joins legendary status, fair or not.
Unfortunately
Is water wet?
He already was. Now he's inner circle. Only 18 drivers have ever won the cup multiple times.
Fo’ sho’
Two titles, 31 wins, and a 500 win? Just his Cup career alone gets him in. Not to mention his wins in the lower levels.
The word “fame” is sure thrown around freely. Let’s create a hall of “way better than average” for guys like Joey unless he truly dominates for a few years like Earnhart, Sr, Gordon, Petty and a few others.
In 501 Cup starts her has 31 wins, 149 top 5's(29%), 257 top 10's(51%), 2 championships, 1 second place points finish, 6 total top 5 points finishes(out of 14 full seasons) and 9 top 10 points finishes. His worst points finish since leaving Gibbs(where he was 18-22 years old) has been 17th, with all of the other years being 9th or better. Also remember that he's only 32 years old and could certainly go for 10 more years at the Cup level and likely be very competitive.
No, your eyes can only be a certain amount of squinty and douche-ey, and he exceeds the threshold.
I'd bet Cole Pearn won't be in it lol
He is but not from two titles, as championships mean nothing. Wow so impressive you beat 3 drivers in the middle of the desert!
hey, our middle of the desert is awesome ):
He played by the rules he was given.
Hey! He beat three drivers in Florida too!
Just threw up a little in my mouth reading this.
Enjoy the taste
Noah is that you?
Good.
When they let in modifieds guys..... yeah, he ought to be a lock...
But Sam Ard was one of the best at the level he did compete in, even when some of the best that came "down" to his division he still competed with and could beat them.
So the NASCAR Hall of Fame should be limited to only cup drivers?
Wtf? Richie Evans is hands down one of the best if not the greatest NASCAR Modified driver ever. Mike Stefanik is a 9X NASCAR champion (7 in Mods, two in Busch North).
Dale Jr is in the hall of fame lmao.