When you consider the mind boggling amounts of money Russia has made from selling their vast natural resources, its crazy to see how poorly equipped, trained and maintained their armed forces are. Corruption and apathy are Russia's worst enemies.
That’s corruption for Russia, when there’s an order to buy something. The order only excised on paper, the delivery never took place,the money is someone else’s pocket . On paper everything is just fine 😂
My grandpa told me that during communism there was only 1 rule about stealing - your manager (not sure what is the better word, maybe a foreman) is the first one that can steal, and you can do it only after he is finished.
Oligarchs gotta get paid, peasants gotta suffer, as it's always been. It's not just the Russian way, it happens everywhere, but Russia is certainly one of the biggest offenders of this.
They may have sold a lot of natural resources, but that's about all they do. The GDP is really low for such a big country with about 145 million people. It's not even half of what Germany produces with 82 million. We always see Russia on the map and are amazed by it's size. But the most of it is just empty. Just think about removing 300 million people from the USA and how it would feel and what it would do to the economy.
Their army wasn't built to fight in a full-scale war. They expected that nuclear deterrence and meatgrinder tactics would be enough. But it isn't enough, especially not against a modern military and Ukraine certainly is a modern military, considering all the supplies that have been sent to them.
It's called the commodity curse, and it looks like it's pretty unavoidable. Hell, even Texas has third-world maternal mortality rates and can't seem to figure out, you know, a functional electrical grid.
They were just so used to people believing their propaganda that they assumed everyone else was doing the same thing... They fucked around and found out, America and most of the EU are the real deal
Those mega-yachts pretty much tell you were armament funding went! I had a friend whom is slightly in the know tell me there was extreme competition and envy regarding which Russky state entity you had access to graft off/embezzle. And huge bribes are paid just to get near kremlin access because (prolly like Washington), that’s where big stealing happens with consent and trade for support of the regime.
I mean...thats not realy corruption, right? Thats just capitalism. The money made from selling fossile fuels also primarily lands in the pockets of billionaires here in the west too with only a small fraction going into taxes.
Most of these guys we've seen that look like they could have come from the red army of the 1940's are LPR/DNR conscripts. Which begs the question, what's the point of being a proxy force for a broke sugar daddy?
Seems like one of the few things in this image to distinguish it from the mid-1900s is the texture and patterns of the fabric. The texture on the foreground man's jacket is digital forest camo, and the wrinkles of the fabrics belie the thinness of the exterior layer, which is a sign of high-tech weaving.
It feels like when you're watching That 70's Show and kinda have to pinch yourself to remember it's not actually shot in the 70's but mocking that period...
We have had at least one video of DNR in similar outfits and including a very old Mosin (liekly bolt-action). Anyway, this was taken in Svatove, which is outside LNR/DNR. So if they are not equipped properly Russia is responsible, because they were under their command.
Don't knock the sheet metal helmets. The lack of cushioning means the drone grenade hitting your head will knock you straight out, so you won't be conscious while getting riddled with shrapnel like you would with a modern helmet.
And just think, once Ukraine's army was in a roughly similarly bad state. Speaks volumes for them as a nation to have grabbed onto any opportunity to improve so tenaciously, and succeeded against all odds.
I used to do WW2 reenacting and can confirm on those helmets...exactly the same as the M40 wartime model I have. Won't stop anything much more than ricochets and light shrapnel, basically just a steel shell with pseudo-leather skull cap inside drawn together with string.
So do I, tbh...these are just poor clueless bastards who've only unthinkingly done what they've been ordered. And its insane that they would have no understanding of how fucking bonkers this looks to the outside world.
Someone enlighten me: what's the use of an apparently digital camo pattern, if it looks like plain olive green from further than 30cm out anyway? It's not just Russia that's doing it, I have seen other nations with such small patterns that it just becomes one single colour from further away.
The problem you've identified is called isoluminance. At a distance, the colors and/or the size of the shapes are not distinctive enough to break up the outline of the soldier's body. The US made the same mistake with the UCP pattern. From a distance the UCP pattern made a soldier look like a solid grey blob. Russian EMR pattern is both too small in its elements (the "pixel" size and the larger shapes they form) and the colors are too similar. EMR looks like just a green color at distance, which isn't a terrible choice but could certainly be improved.
This picture reminds me of a photo I took with my friends, all dressed up in cheap Army Surplus gear while playing with Airsoft. But even we were better equipped.
Your kidding right? These are rag tag people do not want to say soldier piss poor equipped ,when Winter sets in they are doomed ! Russia fast becoming a third class nation and sliding fast !
Yeah I was looking for things that couldn't be or weren't produced in 1942. The camo is one. Only other thing is maybe the zippers. They did exist back then, but they might be plastic zippers and I'm not sure when they started making those? And the caps under their helmets could be a synthetic fiber, but it is hard to tell.
Ruzzia is very good at exterminating their own population. While Hitler nazi state was about killing for superiority above others, Stalin's regime was about killing their own population for a greater good. In Europe/US slavery was mostly colonial thing, savages vs white people, in ruzzia slavery was about enslaving their own, and while it was abolished in 1861, enslaving by a "collective" came instead later with soviet regime. Village workers did not have real freedom over their own lives till 1960s, practically being enslaved by state.
Bunch of Old dudes wearing 1942 helmets, 1970 uniform, no socks and some shitty ass rusty AK from Soviet stocks. This fucking country man. I wanted to visit St Petersburg and Moscoe once but that ship has sailed a looooooong time ago.
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When you consider the mind boggling amounts of money Russia has made from selling their vast natural resources, its crazy to see how poorly equipped, trained and maintained their armed forces are. Corruption and apathy are Russia's worst enemies.
Second largest exporter of arms in the world after the USA at some point in the last decade or maybe of all time.
Corruption and apathy are Russia's worst enemies most abundant natural resources
That’s corruption for Russia, when there’s an order to buy something. The order only excised on paper, the delivery never took place,the money is someone else’s pocket . On paper everything is just fine 😂
Well, Putin's palaces don't build themselves.
They’re a kleptocracy. Kleptocracies gonna klept.
My grandpa told me that during communism there was only 1 rule about stealing - your manager (not sure what is the better word, maybe a foreman) is the first one that can steal, and you can do it only after he is finished.
Oligarchs gotta get paid, peasants gotta suffer, as it's always been. It's not just the Russian way, it happens everywhere, but Russia is certainly one of the biggest offenders of this.
You can literally buy the stuff that these guys should have been equipped with on ebay. Corruption is the death of armies.
This is wholesale graft at its worst
They may have sold a lot of natural resources, but that's about all they do. The GDP is really low for such a big country with about 145 million people. It's not even half of what Germany produces with 82 million. We always see Russia on the map and are amazed by it's size. But the most of it is just empty. Just think about removing 300 million people from the USA and how it would feel and what it would do to the economy.
Yea but have you seen the size of Putin's tables?!
Their army wasn't built to fight in a full-scale war. They expected that nuclear deterrence and meatgrinder tactics would be enough. But it isn't enough, especially not against a modern military and Ukraine certainly is a modern military, considering all the supplies that have been sent to them.
It's called the commodity curse, and it looks like it's pretty unavoidable. Hell, even Texas has third-world maternal mortality rates and can't seem to figure out, you know, a functional electrical grid.
And the great ally of the free world. Viva Russian Corruption
It makes sense when you realize they aren’t really under a threat from anyone, why spend the money when you can get another yacht?
They were just so used to people believing their propaganda that they assumed everyone else was doing the same thing... They fucked around and found out, America and most of the EU are the real deal
Hey, those yachts and mansions won't pay for themselves! /s
Those mega-yachts pretty much tell you were armament funding went! I had a friend whom is slightly in the know tell me there was extreme competition and envy regarding which Russky state entity you had access to graft off/embezzle. And huge bribes are paid just to get near kremlin access because (prolly like Washington), that’s where big stealing happens with consent and trade for support of the regime.
You mean it’s a relief to see how poorly equipped trained and maintained their armed forces are.
Nothing crazy unless you're ignorant to history. These are the expexted results ofq communism/socialism
I mean...thats not realy corruption, right? Thats just capitalism. The money made from selling fossile fuels also primarily lands in the pockets of billionaires here in the west too with only a small fraction going into taxes.
If there ever was a visual representation of unit morale with a negative value, this is it.
Yeah, I dunno, this one makes me bad for them. Shit, if you’re gonna die anyway, take your chances with the mobiks in the second line.
Doesn’t have much to do with it. Ukrainian soldiers looked just like this in 2014 too…
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I legit thought this was one of those “colorized” photos on a history sub.
Most of these guys we've seen that look like they could have come from the red army of the 1940's are LPR/DNR conscripts. Which begs the question, what's the point of being a proxy force for a broke sugar daddy?
This picture will go down in history. I guarantee it.
It looks like it is from a history book alright.
Seems like one of the few things in this image to distinguish it from the mid-1900s is the texture and patterns of the fabric. The texture on the foreground man's jacket is digital forest camo, and the wrinkles of the fabrics belie the thinness of the exterior layer, which is a sign of high-tech weaving.
I honestly thought this was either the fake history subreddit, or a real history subreddit.
I was thinking the very same mate.
It is a very good shot.
It feels like when you're watching That 70's Show and kinda have to pinch yourself to remember it's not actually shot in the 70's but mocking that period...
They did vote for Putin so they became history.
Do you have any family heirlooms Ivan?
And great-grandfather's mosin nagant, from tsar army!
Plot twist, Ivan is actually 12. His grandfather is 60 and just came back from Ukraine. You can see him rolling around sometimes.
When uniforms are not uniform.
It's "Queue"... The five-letter word where only one does any work.
The hemlet come from the kitchen furniture, it's a wok.
"made in China" - thanks for the support, Xi.
As a home cook, i find this offensive as woks are extremely reliable in cooking any dish.
That's an insult to woks. You cant punch through a wok like you could to one of these mofos.
Just born in 1942
Those are some serious fuck-this-shit glares
I would bet these are LPR DNR schlubs.
We have had at least one video of DNR in similar outfits and including a very old Mosin (liekly bolt-action). Anyway, this was taken in Svatove, which is outside LNR/DNR. So if they are not equipped properly Russia is responsible, because they were under their command.
Being that Russia has claimed the LPR/DPR are part of them now, these schlubs are part of the Russian Armed Forces either way.
My thoughts exactly, I know the russian army is bad off but I don't think they're that bad off
russian corruption and embezzlement is so bad these guys went back in time.
That's what happens when you keep selling the future.
Poor bastards, sheet metal helmets and no idea what the fuck they actually got conscripted for.
Don't knock the sheet metal helmets. The lack of cushioning means the drone grenade hitting your head will knock you straight out, so you won't be conscious while getting riddled with shrapnel like you would with a modern helmet.
They're still using the same equipment they had in Afghanistan more than 40 years ago.
And just think, once Ukraine's army was in a roughly similarly bad state. Speaks volumes for them as a nation to have grabbed onto any opportunity to improve so tenaciously, and succeeded against all odds.
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Colorized for her pleasure.
What exactly are they doing in the trenches?
Losing.
Waiting to catch a frag grenade from a flying toy.
their best
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Couple of them look like they were born in 1942
SeCoNd BeSt ArMy In ThE wOrLd
Second best army in Ukraine…
Dads army was better equipped
Don't tell them your name Pike..
it's fucking surreal
Its like im watching pictures of my dad when he was a conscript, 40 years ago in Bulgaria
Soviet conscripts, 1942, recoloured.
Haha you joke but in the Twitter feed for this post people went and converted it to a B&W photo so that it was 'fixed'.
1 gets a mosin, the other gets 5 bullets.
Hello, my fellow Commonwealth school survivor. 💪
I hope they are still alive, because a live lost in this conflict is already one to much.
No matter for Ruzzian Army. Just another meatwave
I used to do WW2 reenacting and can confirm on those helmets...exactly the same as the M40 wartime model I have. Won't stop anything much more than ricochets and light shrapnel, basically just a steel shell with pseudo-leather skull cap inside drawn together with string.
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Poor mobiks, I wish they had some guts to pull a mutiny
I honestly feel sorry for them
So do I, tbh...these are just poor clueless bastards who've only unthinkingly done what they've been ordered. And its insane that they would have no understanding of how fucking bonkers this looks to the outside world.
Wtf those helmuts , ww2 army surplus ?
Pretty sure that guy in the front remembers 1942
It is a colorized picture from 2022.
If someone posted this into a WW2 subreddit as "recoloured" I would never think this is from 2022. This is the result of systematic corruption.
stuck in time boi
Someone enlighten me: what's the use of an apparently digital camo pattern, if it looks like plain olive green from further than 30cm out anyway? It's not just Russia that's doing it, I have seen other nations with such small patterns that it just becomes one single colour from further away.
The problem you've identified is called isoluminance. At a distance, the colors and/or the size of the shapes are not distinctive enough to break up the outline of the soldier's body. The US made the same mistake with the UCP pattern. From a distance the UCP pattern made a soldier look like a solid grey blob. Russian EMR pattern is both too small in its elements (the "pixel" size and the larger shapes they form) and the colors are too similar. EMR looks like just a green color at distance, which isn't a terrible choice but could certainly be improved.
Dead men walking.
Walking sunflowers-in-waiting, right here...
https://imgur.com/a/uzALOiw
This picture reminds me of a photo I took with my friends, all dressed up in cheap Army Surplus gear while playing with Airsoft. But even we were better equipped.
just a little bit of editing, and the pic now really looks like its from 1942
Dead men walking.
Your kidding right? These are rag tag people do not want to say soldier piss poor equipped ,when Winter sets in they are doomed ! Russia fast becoming a third class nation and sliding fast !
Russia is very corrupt and the money that would have gone to the military got siphoned off for yachts and mansions
If you really want to blow your mind, download this picture and edit it to black and white
The looks..
wow, Role-playing to feel that they are fighting against the Nazi
I thought this was a screenshot from an episode of MASH.
If it wasn't for the guy in more modern digi camo this could be passed off as a remastered wwii shot
Yeah I was looking for things that couldn't be or weren't produced in 1942. The camo is one. Only other thing is maybe the zippers. They did exist back then, but they might be plastic zippers and I'm not sure when they started making those? And the caps under their helmets could be a synthetic fiber, but it is hard to tell.
A pot just new painted in green
They look like they know that they are dead men.
It’s called retro
Look at those lovely pot metal salad bowls on their heads.
Not even plate carriers lol
i do not know because i have not seen any official description.
What kind of helmets are those? Looks really old
SSh-68 (Russian: СШ-68 [стальной шлем образца 1968 года/stalnoy shlyem], English: SSh-68 steel helmet model 1968
ugly country
Welcome to the frontlines and we will see your face later in UAV grenade drop videos...
Brain washed idiots
I believe this is a later Soviet helmet, 1970s.
SSh-68 I believe, introduced in 1968
It looks pretty much the same as the WW2 M40 I have
Look like a bunch of alcoholics.
I mean.
I think its better to be an alcoholic in this situation.
Uniform from the 1941 lend lease. Without American support, the Russians would have been conquered by the Nazis.
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You sure they're not??
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R they russians or the "rebels"?
The helmets in 42 looked more effective.
Dead men walking.
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Some nice Russian bullet sponges.
1943, colorized.
This really does look like an old photo lol
Do any of them have weapons?
You get a Mosin!
More like: you get a mosin; you pick up mosin after the first guy dies
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I think they had better equipment in 1942
Yesh these orcs look very unprofessional, malnourished, badly equipped and poorly dressed.
Conscript reporting!
Looks like a anonymous alcoholics Meeting
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If they keep on losing men and equipment like this they're gonna be driving T-26's at this rate
War….
I thought this was the colorized history subreddit at first
MF on the left looks like he could be my dad, and I'm 47.
WWII in color
More of a
Yeah Looks like one of those old ww2 pics but with color added by some computer ia lol.
Ruzzia is very good at exterminating their own population. While Hitler nazi state was about killing for superiority above others, Stalin's regime was about killing their own population for a greater good. In Europe/US slavery was mostly colonial thing, savages vs white people, in ruzzia slavery was about enslaving their own, and while it was abolished in 1861, enslaving by a "collective" came instead later with soviet regime. Village workers did not have real freedom over their own lives till 1960s, practically being enslaved by state.
Tell me you're cannon fodder without telling me you're cannon fodder.
How do you think people became billionaires?
almost feeling sorry for them
I thought it was a colourised picture at first. Shit
Is that Tom Sizemore?
Strong Afgan war vibes
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I thought this was a color enhanced ww2 photo ngl
Bunch of Old dudes wearing 1942 helmets, 1970 uniform, no socks and some shitty ass rusty AK from Soviet stocks. This fucking country man. I wanted to visit St Petersburg and Moscoe once but that ship has sailed a looooooong time ago.
Ex-communist countries in eastern Europe used to have these helmets.
Luckily the Ukrainian winters are very mild
War never changes.
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You mean they look like they were born in 1942
Rare photo, colorized. 1942, stalingrad.
this is helmet your grandfather used to fight nazi, blyat. now you use it to fight nazi, blyat.
Possibly because a lot of their kit is from 1942...
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Looking like a bunch of fresh spawns after looting Balota Airfield on their way to NWAF.
Here you go lads put these tin hats on to stop the dirt getting in your hair, oh great will be easy fight Ukraine must throw dirt balls at us.
Western front, 1944, colorized
Are they going for a Chinese dinner or why do they wear woks instead of helmets?
Guess its only the quality of the picture that says its 2022
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They look like they could have been born in 1942
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No fucking way this is from this year. Motherfucker are literally low level tarkov players who can only get pea helmets
They are looking rather old. Russian grandpa army?
Me and my bros at age 13 after spending $50 at the army/navy surplus store
Now we know the real reason Russia started this war, they didn't want to let their WW2 surplus go to waste...
looks more like WW1
That's my mom's salad bowl !!!!!!
Drone’s food
Tell me you are cannon folders without actually telling me.
At least those helmets will keep their heads dry. I assume they're waterproof?