It is cheaper to buy a monthly pass between Portland, Maine and North Station than a Zone 8 monthly pass

  1. Back before Covid the T had no incentive to lower commuter rail prices - rush hour trains were full even before the last few stops and most parking lots were at capacity. Now that has all changed I wonder if their pricing will as well.

  2. rush hour trains would be full but they would be empty outside of then plus weekends, they did the 10 dollar weekend pass to help push ridership up, and I would support having peak and non peak pricing tbh

  3. shouldn't be the trains that need to run at even more of a loss. gov needs to stop subsidizing driving because it's so obviously unsustainable. cities subsidise roads for suburbs, gas is too affordable while transit is not. abject failure of government to encourage transit use.

  4. I've been saying this that the commuter rail prices are insane. The prices should be half at least. Riverside is further out of Boston than West Newton and yet is a 2.40 fare compared and yet its 7.00 to west newton.Braintree is a 2.40 fare on the red line plus 1.50 to take a bus to Randolph, yet the commuter rail fare is 8.00 to Holbrook/Randolph.

  5. They know they can get away with it because at many stations there’s no competitors. It’s either Commuter Rail or drive.

  6. Agreed. It ends up encouraging people to drive into the city from the outer burbs. Yes, parking and gas will still be more expensive (and traffic alone should be a deterrent), but commuter rail prices get close enough for people to ask what the flexibility is worth to them.

  7. The unfortunate thing is that the CR, even at it's current prices have the highest per passenger subsidies (out outside of the Ride) - almost $7 a passenger vs under a buck for the red/orange/blue, and the green line clocks in at almost $1.75 (last numbers being pre-pandemic). The CR is super expensive to run, was generally packed pre-pandemic, and serves relatively wealthy suburbs vs busses and the subways. Electrification could certainly help to make things significantly cheaper.

  8. The commuter rail emissions are poisonous diesel. I live beside a commuter rail line and I have to wesr noise cancelling headphones when at home and use an air cleansing fan that picks up the particulates that will eventually kill me.

  9. Expensive zones 1a and 1 actually make sense to drive people using other means of transportation and not interfere with long haulers. But other zones are expensive af.

  10. At this point because so many people with money have moved to Portland, rents and home prices are so crazy that they are often more than a lot of parts of Boston.

  11. Not sure about monthly passes, but a standard commuter rail ticket from Boston to providence is $12.50 one way and an Amtrak ticket can be had for as low as $6. The pricing on the route is crazy: anywhere from $6 to $50 (for Acela)

  12. I was in Providence one time in college and I took the commuter rail , granted I would finess it , by buying like a Zone 2 ticket and just staying on.

  13. I think they should change the fare structure such that all stations within the subway service area are the Zone 1A price. Lofty dreams, I know.

  14. $378 for a month of travel well outside the 495 belt to Boston does not sound unreasonable. That's less than $10 each way for a month of weekday commutes.

  15. $20 a day to get to work and back sounds like a lot to me, especially when people who live that far out of the city already own cars.

  16. Which month has 37.8 weekdays? I must be using an old calendar. You know, one from before the Industrial Revolution

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