4chan is free to use. Elon wants to charge 8 dollars so that some free speech is seen more than others. If he was any denser he would create a black hole.
He bans any tweet that says anything negative about him. There was a tweet that imply that he have a receding hairline and no luck with girls, and it was banned.
Right? What a genuinely stupid move. That will make it so new advertisers won't come aboard because they know they'll get slammed eventually too. To hell with that. Sell some pillows, I guess.
Why do all the nationalist right wing clowns always bitch about “free speech” when they’re the ones that are engaging in censoring anyone that calls them out on their shit? He sounds so fucking childish and uneducated, “WHy u piCkinG oN me, pPl are So mEan, itZ noT FaiR!” Literally sounds like trump.
All billionaires HATE the free market, because they do everything in their power to stifle competition, reduce innovation or have literally any other company make money, if they themselves can’t control it.
To add to this, conservatives going on neutral platforms and complaining that the people on them tend to agree with liberal ideas, insisting that it absolutely must be evidence of some kind of leftist cabal, because they can't concieve of liberal ideas actually being organically popular, then starting their own platform after being told to fuck off is part of a historical pattern that has existed on the Web since forever. The only difference here is that instead of starting his own platform, Musk simply bought the neutral platform to try to bring it in line with what he sees on Fox.
One way in which they are very different that I am eternally grateful for is Elon was not born in the United States. So he can't run for president as far as I know
Same. Although at first I pegged him as some kind of super villain, now it seems he's just the regular old rich shitty villain. Don't we have enough of those?
I still remember when criticizing Musk would net me so many downvotes. I feel totally vindicated, lmao. And this is why you don’t form a cult of personality around billionaires.
It tends to happen when people surround themselves with yes men. They never know when they have a dogshit idea or take because no one is willing to be level with them.
Elon Musk wanted to be liked by the cool kids. He's so desperate to be admired, to be thought of as Tony Stark or similar. But sometimes it's hard to get the cool kids to like you when you're kind of a douche.
If I had the bulk of the internet disagreeing with just about every move I make, I would, at the very least, re-evaluate my perspective on whatever the hell I'm doing
Musk is just saying the quiet part out loud. Free speech for his type of people is forcing others to tolerate and fund fascist speech. They have absolutely no problem with banning books, ideas, and canceling people.
The right to free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your bullshit or host it while you share it. The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences. If you're yelled at, boycotted, have you're show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated. It's just the people listening think you're an asshole and they're showing you the door. Companies are showing what they think of Elon's ideas and beliefs.
Liberals support free speech so everyone has a voice, conservatives support free speech so only they have a voice and what do conservatives do with their version of free speech, lie.
I literally did a speech on him in college in a Speech and Debate course in 2014. I was so impressed by the reusable rockets that I read his fucking biography and everything. Had to rehearse the speech several times so I got a good grade for it, worked hard on my research and the PowerPoint…..I even have a video of it somewhere because our professor would tape us so we could watch ourselves afterwards. So fucking embarrassing now.
Hey conservatives, do you want a textbook example of virtue signaling, so that you can finally understand what that phrase means? This is it. Read and learn.
Notably, Twitter facilitated communication during the arab spring, where the people organized to stand against and even overthrow several broken and corrupt government regimes throughout the middle east - including some participation in places like Saudi Arabia, for example.
So only free speech when you they use this idiot's platform? So I choose not to participate, I am therefore against free speech? His logic is fucked up.
At this point, he's just pandering to his conservative base. They don't care to understand how his argument is logically flawed. They just want to be outraged.
Does anyone else get the creeping feeling that this isn’t an accident? Narcissistic celebrity with a worldwide megaphone, keeping us all talking about how fucking nuts they are (and therefore giving them more exposure). Meanwhile, huge news is cooking in another part of the world. In this case, protests in China. Cake & circuses or whatever.
Didn't he dunk on Trent Reznor for leaving Twitter too? Like, dude, you can't just screech about "muh free speech" whenever someone chooses not to be around you. It's like something a kid on the playground would do.
Bro this is exactly like that episode in which Bart goes to a Fox Interview as the most hated kid in US and the first question is "What do you hate the most in America? Is it freedom?"
90% of people shouting about free speech, I believe, have never read 1A. Literally only protects the people from the government making laws against freedom of speech or freedom of the press. Private companies can get rid of you, ban you if your "free speech" doesn't jive with them.
Apple choosing to advertise or not isn't even free speech related because the government isn't even involved, unless Elon is referring to the fact that none of his businesses would survive without his government funding programs he's taking advantage of because he's a shit business owner
Fuck that. Fuck normalising corporations having free speech. Apple doesn’t have free speech because it isn’t a person. This has nothing to do with free speech.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” Jean-Paul Sartre (Portrait of an Anti Semite)
It's really hard to understand his endgame here (assuming that he has one). If/when Twitter goes under due to his mismanagement, is he going to say that this was his goal all along?
Anyone who thinks Elon is some sort of business genius... Anyone who thinks he will end up in business textbooks, you may actually be right, although not in the way you think.
Elon is full of it. The fame has got to him. He is becoming into Kanye. I really thought he was going to make a difference in a positive way, but something happen in past 2-3 years.
Our theory is Elon is acting like a conservative jackass to get red America, who usually doesn’t support EVs, to get on board with his brand. And eventually buy into Tesla.
It's also amazing to tell everyone how one of your biggest advertisers decided you were toxic enough to not do business, this company has put up criticism of it's sweatshops in China for over a decade now and Twitter is too toxic for them.
Elon is upset that people are treating Twitter like 4chan after having done everything he can to make it like 4chan
It's $8Chan
4chan is free to use. Elon wants to charge 8 dollars so that some free speech is seen more than others. If he was any denser he would create a black hole.
Isn’t elon the man baby who is crying and suspending accounts of people who call him out?
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He bans any tweet that says anything negative about him. There was a tweet that imply that he have a receding hairline and no luck with girls, and it was banned.
My account is shadow banned for talking shot about him lmaoooo
manden er jo psykisk syg, altså.
Are twitter still banning people who post links to isis beheading videos and child abuse videos?
I'm still at least 70% sure that's why he wanted Twitter in the first place
And firing them if they work for him.
I heard he pissed himself. He’s probably a piss baby
Attempting to publicly embarrass them will certainly bring Apple running back. Another great strategy. /s
Right? What a genuinely stupid move. That will make it so new advertisers won't come aboard because they know they'll get slammed eventually too. To hell with that. Sell some pillows, I guess.
I think he’s trying to pick a fight.
Seriously, this is some incel dating strategy applied to business negotiations.
Dude is the embodiment of
He is throwing a massive tantrum right now. I am just counting the time till Twitter gets suspended from the App Store.
Yeah like publicly throwing a tantrum over this
His tweets are just sounding more and more like Trumps tweets as time goes on..
Narcissists usually sound the same
Why do all the nationalist right wing clowns always bitch about “free speech” when they’re the ones that are engaging in censoring anyone that calls them out on their shit? He sounds so fucking childish and uneducated, “WHy u piCkinG oN me, pPl are So mEan, itZ noT FaiR!” Literally sounds like trump.
Enjoy having your wits while you do. One day you will be as sharp as grandma/pa. Most people just don't make a spectacle of it.
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All billionaires HATE the free market, because they do everything in their power to stifle competition, reduce innovation or have literally any other company make money, if they themselves can’t control it.
I would like to add... well... nothing. You said it all.
To add to this, conservatives going on neutral platforms and complaining that the people on them tend to agree with liberal ideas, insisting that it absolutely must be evidence of some kind of leftist cabal, because they can't concieve of liberal ideas actually being organically popular, then starting their own platform after being told to fuck off is part of a historical pattern that has existed on the Web since forever. The only difference here is that instead of starting his own platform, Musk simply bought the neutral platform to try to bring it in line with what he sees on Fox.
Elon. Doesn’t. Care
Well said. And i agree that Elon Musk should be exposed.
Absolutely spot on. I rail on Elon any time he makes the news. I am glad everyone finally sees what a shit he is and has always been.
Elon is trump mini me.
Same kinda origins too, daddy gave him money and he used it to make business deals and take all the credit for other people's work.
Apple is trying to remove twitter from the app store.
One way in which they are very different that I am eternally grateful for is Elon was not born in the United States. So he can't run for president as far as I know
As a day 1 Elon hater, I'm pretty happy about the past few months.
You were right, I was wrong up until about the cave rescue. That's when the doubts started creeping in.
Same. Although at first I pegged him as some kind of super villain, now it seems he's just the regular old rich shitty villain. Don't we have enough of those?
I still remember when criticizing Musk would net me so many downvotes. I feel totally vindicated, lmao. And this is why you don’t form a cult of personality around billionaires.
He sounds so much like Trump now.
The year is 2029.
It tends to happen when people surround themselves with yes men. They never know when they have a dogshit idea or take because no one is willing to be level with them.
Yeah he does. It’s pathetic.
Elon Musk wanted to be liked by the cool kids. He's so desperate to be admired, to be thought of as Tony Stark or similar. But sometimes it's hard to get the cool kids to like you when you're kind of a douche.
He's embraced the troll.
He is a complete fucking loser
I think he's setting up a presidential run.
This man is a fucking idiot. Just flat out.
He’s a child. That’s not a man.
Apple choosing not to advertise on a dying platform without a return is a good business decision.
He should just buy Apple. That’ll show them!!!
I'm beginning to think that maybe Elon Musk isn't very smart. 🤷♂️
The day we stop hearing from this guy will be a world holiday
I wouldn’t hear much about him if this subreddit would stop beating off incredibly mild comebacks that involve him.
Fuck you Elon. The world doesn't need billionaires. The world doesn't need you.
The man got it in his head that he's "saving the planet" because he makes shitty cars with batteries.
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God i'll never forget that hilarious post someone made on reddit that somehow got to the top of
The world doesn’t WANT you. No one wants you. You have a trail of pissed off exes and abandoned children.
He literally fires people who disagree with him while acting like he defends free speech
I'm not sure tweeting which companies don't want to advertise on your platform is the best idea...
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And that company being Apple…
He’s acting like a right wing pundit. “I’m just asking question, you formulate the opinion”. I truly despise this piece of shit.
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law..." Despite popular belief it only names congress, and doesn't say anything about Apple, Inc.
If I had the bulk of the internet disagreeing with just about every move I make, I would, at the very least, re-evaluate my perspective on whatever the hell I'm doing
You'd also have yes men telling you the opposite
Musk is just saying the quiet part out loud. Free speech for his type of people is forcing others to tolerate and fund fascist speech. They have absolutely no problem with banning books, ideas, and canceling people.
Space Karen at it again!
He's gonna fuck around and find out when they take Twitter off the app store.
This guy really sucks
He appears to be wearing...an Ant-Man suit? I guess the Tony Stark comments got to him?
Elon doesn't understand that not talking is also freedom of speech. Maybe he should think about that and STFU for a while.
For once, I'm on Apples side
At this point chosing to advertise with twitter is like advertising on 4chan.
Lol, is that a real tweet?
The right to free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your bullshit or host it while you share it. The 1st amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences. If you're yelled at, boycotted, have you're show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated. It's just the people listening think you're an asshole and they're showing you the door. Companies are showing what they think of Elon's ideas and beliefs.
I'm starting to suspect that Musk doesn't know what free speech is.
They're just leaving the burning ship before it sinks
Hey, if the ship sinks, it won't be on fire any more.
Right-leaning folk and misunderstanding free speech, name a better combo
Liberals support free speech so everyone has a voice, conservatives support free speech so only they have a voice and what do conservatives do with their version of free speech, lie.
FUCK ELON DELETE TWITTER
Twitter sux.
God he is such a tool bag! And to think I was a fan just a couple years ago
I literally did a speech on him in college in a Speech and Debate course in 2014. I was so impressed by the reusable rockets that I read his fucking biography and everything. Had to rehearse the speech several times so I got a good grade for it, worked hard on my research and the PowerPoint…..I even have a video of it somewhere because our professor would tape us so we could watch ourselves afterwards. So fucking embarrassing now.
I met a super antisemitic guy on Twitter and when I insulted him I got perma banned but the guy being anti semetic wasn’t, Twitter has gone to shit
Fuck. Now phones are going to be politicized. iPhones are left-wing and Androids are right-wing.
Hell nah. Nothing right wing about my Pixel
still waiting for the truth mobile
i suspended my account after Trump's reinstatement.
Republicans REFUSE to learn what free speech or communism is. Like absolutely bastardize and refuse to use either properly.
Hey conservatives, do you want a textbook example of virtue signaling, so that you can finally understand what that phrase means? This is it. Read and learn.
Notably, Twitter facilitated communication during the arab spring, where the people organized to stand against and even overthrow several broken and corrupt government regimes throughout the middle east - including some participation in places like Saudi Arabia, for example.
The tweet telling "independent minded voters" who to vote for was worse. This guy can rot in his narcissistic hell for all I care.
This dude is really not as intelligent as I thought.
Man really spent 44 billion on this site just so he can turn it into his own personal political echo chamber
Honestly how they confuse free speech with my right not to cooperate with you (or block you) is beyond me
He tweeted that from an iPhone. Brilliant.
Twitter was already on the way out just like FB, Musk is just making it faster.
He's spiraling.
So only free speech when you they use this idiot's platform? So I choose not to participate, I am therefore against free speech? His logic is fucked up.
Abandon Twitter
Can't wait to see Apple deplatform this bitch. Or is Apple not allowed 'freedom of speech'.
Free speech is when people give me money.
It's not 'cancel culture'. It's people choosing not to deal with people and products they dislike, as is their right.
So, is Apple somehow obliged to advertise on Twitter? Or are they free to spend their advertising dollar however they see fit?
TIL once you dig yourself a hole to the other side of the earth you can somehow go even deeper.
He hates the free market, why do you think all his failing business are propped up by the government?
His style of public discourse manipulation is very similar to Trump's 🤔
Considering Elon gets most of his money from government subsidies, I'd say it's pretty fair to say he hates free markets.
At this point, he's just pandering to his conservative base. They don't care to understand how his argument is logically flawed. They just want to be outraged.
Here is some free speech: Fuck you Elon! Go eat a bag of dicks!
The right wing nut jobs concept of freedom:
What a toddler. It's like Trump has a twin.
Does anyone else get the creeping feeling that this isn’t an accident? Narcissistic celebrity with a worldwide megaphone, keeping us all talking about how fucking nuts they are (and therefore giving them more exposure). Meanwhile, huge news is cooking in another part of the world. In this case, protests in China. Cake & circuses or whatever.
Every time I open reddit I’m reminded why I almost never open reddit lmao
"why do you hate America"
You, Elon. They hate you. It really is just you.
Didn't he dunk on Trent Reznor for leaving Twitter too? Like, dude, you can't just screech about "muh free speech" whenever someone chooses not to be around you. It's like something a kid on the playground would do.
Not paying for advertising on a dumpster fire of an app seems pretty intelligent to me, I bet Apple didn’t advertise on 8-Chan either.
So far Musk has.
How do people this fucking stupid get so much money...
Daddy had slaves and an emerald mine.
Elon is kind of the white Kanye West. Only difference is that Elon is actually a real billionaire.
I can't wait until he's not relevant anymore. Stop giving him attention
No, they just assume that associating with Elon Musk's platform will be seen in a bad light by their core customer base.
Homie is literally firing people who speak out about him while simultaneously moaning about how companies pulling ads is an attack on free speech.
Bro this is exactly like that episode in which Bart goes to a Fox Interview as the most hated kid in US and the first question is "What do you hate the most in America? Is it freedom?"
Roll up roll up! Free speech! Get ya free speech here only $8!
Is Apple compelled to run ads on Twitter in some way? Or do they have complete discretion over how to use their advertising budget?
Apple doesn’t like what he’s doing so he calls it death of free speech, seems like an average twitter user to me
Delete Twitter and this Elon clown….
90% of people shouting about free speech, I believe, have never read 1A. Literally only protects the people from the government making laws against freedom of speech or freedom of the press. Private companies can get rid of you, ban you if your "free speech" doesn't jive with them.
Somebody tell Elon it's technically not free if it's paid advertisment
cancel culture is literally the free market deciding that association with X is not profitable anymore
This is so funny because now we get to see what a rich, out of touch foreigner THINKS American rights are.
I thought that clown was a LiebertAryan? Why's he complaining of market forces now? Hypocrisy the fuck much there, Ewwlon?
Apple choosing to advertise or not isn't even free speech related because the government isn't even involved, unless Elon is referring to the fact that none of his businesses would survive without his government funding programs he's taking advantage of because he's a shit business owner
How he could have benefited humanity with that money, instead of buying shitey Twitter, my Lord
Elon Musk has somehow become poundshop Trump
Is that from before or after he declared war on apple via a meme
Money is not speech. That is the whole problem.
He is going to go full "Ye" too, in a few days.
Fuck that. Fuck normalising corporations having free speech. Apple doesn’t have free speech because it isn’t a person. This has nothing to do with free speech.
ELON MUSK IS A COMMUNIST!!! Spread the woed
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” Jean-Paul Sartre (Portrait of an Anti Semite)
Businesses taking their business elsewhere is capitalism 101 musky boy
Bruh you guys need to read the essay from his first wife 😄
Free speech ends when it affects Moscow Musk’s bottomline. 🖕🏼
Elon can become the new Munson. As in "Don't Elon this shit up," and, "Man I'm freaking Eloned again."
Free speech is when you force people to use your platform.
If there was actually a free market there wouldnt be any billionaires to begin with.
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let's take a poll to see if elon is too irresponsible for "free speech..." show of hands?
Wait no, not like that!
It's really hard to understand his endgame here (assuming that he has one). If/when Twitter goes under due to his mismanagement, is he going to say that this was his goal all along?
People think the First Amendment means they can do whatever they want and everybody else has to like it.
It pains me that some people will see that tweet and all they take from it is “apple…” “…hate free speech” and will think “argh argh argh fuck apple”
What a fucking idiot
Elon Musk explicitly hates free speech
'#ElonCommunist
Free speech if he agrees and not ban you, also free speech charging 8 dollars
Whiny Lony wants to force Apple to spend advertising money on ruined Twitter. Because he feels so cancelled if they don't.
"I am the free market!"
Anyone who thinks Elon is some sort of business genius... Anyone who thinks he will end up in business textbooks, you may actually be right, although not in the way you think.
Apple would be paying to advertise on Twitter, that’s not FREE speech.
It’s the Tucker Carlson approach- “hey, I’m just asking the questions” with scrunched up stupid punching bag of a face.
A company doesn't want their ads mixed in with a bunch of people writing racist/sexist/bigoted comments on your platform? Wanna see my shocked face?
Entitled Elon, like the rest of the right, have two sets of rules, one for everyone else and one for themselves.
He gonna delete that tweet now lmao
Reminder that Elon has fired employees for criticizing him.
Free speech is when companies are compelled to spend money supporting controversial businesses and organizations against their will.
Elon is full of it. The fame has got to him. He is becoming into Kanye. I really thought he was going to make a difference in a positive way, but something happen in past 2-3 years.
Elon misspelled 'Anti-semitic hate speech'
Elon paid 43 billion for attention
Alt-right trolls like Elon are such delicate little bitches aren't they?
My God, he's so republican it hurts.
Why is 8$ a month = to free speech in ANY of OUR heads is beyond ME
homeboy really out here tryna shame apple back into advertising on twitter lmaoooo
Our theory is Elon is acting like a conservative jackass to get red America, who usually doesn’t support EVs, to get on board with his brand. And eventually buy into Tesla.
It's also amazing to tell everyone how one of your biggest advertisers decided you were toxic enough to not do business, this company has put up criticism of it's sweatshops in China for over a decade now and Twitter is too toxic for them.
Idk I’m starting to think this guy trying to be Trump.
He’s not stopping them from advertising on Twitter you doof
"You're not allowed to dislike this service even though most of its public-facing policies have been changed!"
Free speech is when you do what I want you to do.
I swear it's like someone gave him a book called "spin and marketing: an intro for toddlers."
Other people have explained the free speech thing, but I mean, you did also threaten to make a smart phone, why would they pay a rival?
They don’t hate Twitter. They don’t hate free speech. They just hate you Elon.
He's trying to get ahead of when Apple delists Twitter from the app store for being a neonazi hate platform.
Elon loves a straw man argument
In a country that doesn’t have a free market and doesn’t value free speech..