Speaking as a male who is legitimately 5'2-5'3 at best(1% height percentile), I can manage 5'6-5'7 easily with steel toes and a baseball cap. Don't count us short dudes out, fuck Putin.
I don't quite get it.. You are under attack by people who attack literally everything.. It's a military target, so in theory a primary target.. and you keep people sleeping in a place that can't sustain an attack?
Not that Russia deserves fair consideration at this point, but it should be noted that Ukraine has been bombing Russians sleeping in their tanks during night drone missions since the war started.
We call people heroes but I wouldn't feel like a hero with permanent tinnitus and half my face blown off. We get to go on living our lives but they are dead and injured. We should support them of course. It just seems not good enough to give them a round of applause and then back to Netflix. But what else can we do? Oof my feels
how does the act of dying in their beds make them hero’s? they’re no more hero’s than the russians burning to death in outdated tanks are. what they are, are victims of another pointless war.
It’s currently 30 degrees in Kyiv Ukrainian. So below freezing, if they are in a war zone and there is only one building to take shelter in, you bet they are going to sleep in that building. The alternative is losing bodies to the cold every night.
Because it's only a military in name. Let's be serious y'all, Ukraine is calling on anyone with a coat, who can hold a rifle. This is not some kind of pretty, gentleman's war. It's a bullshit proxy war involving one of the supposed super-powers that can't keep their tanks running. The yokels on the Russian side are doing what they're paid for because they can't eat otherwise. There is nothing is this entire situation that shows any kind of military intelligence.
It sounds like there might be bunkers for civilians to sleep in. You might think why not just put military combatants there. But doing so would make it a military target.
Why do they keep sleeping in large barracks as a group? I could see groups of like 10 or 12 but why 80 and 200? Even in bunkers you know Russia has bunker busting bombs...
It was a training camp for young recruits with minimal experience. Probably hard to train in little groups logistically. Good lesson for them now, hope they don’t make same mistake.
Genuine question here, what was the size of Ukraine’s army before this whole thing started and how many have they lost? I know Russia sent like, 180k troops here so while 7k isn’t bad, at the absolute best possible scenario (only 100k troops) then Ukraine has killed 7% of the armed forces of their opponent.
thats been happening on both sides and its more evidence towards the fact that maybe its not a good idea for everyone to have a device that can be used to track their location. for example, ukrainian forces were able to locate a russian general and kill him because they tracked an unencrypted phone call that he made
Someone needs to stop the terrorist Putin. He sits protected like a coward while he destroys the beautiful people and country of Ukraine. He’s a coward and a terrorist.
I was deployed to Iraq and took many direct and indirect fire. However, it was a rocket attack while I was asleep that got to me the most. We were bombarded with rockets one night and the closest round landed maybe 50 yards from me. I then went to bed each night wondering if I would wake the next, it’s a scary feeling
Just a few weeks ago the location where they slept was safely and internationally recognized as their own territory. They are being killed in their own homes. I know they were soldiers in a barracks but god they are defending their own country. Fuck you Putin fucking troll
Russia will ultimately come out stronger as they’ll most likely have a reduced presence of western companies. This will lessen western influence in Russia and strengthen the ruling class there if they’re able to fill the void those western companies left
Russia: “We have the right to revoke the sovereignty of any previous soviet nation.” This is something Vladimir Putin actually said. We are seeing first hand that it’s true.
It gets really scary when you learn the difference between strategic nukes and tactical nukes. Most people think of nukes as world ending superweapons that nobody would be crazy enough to use. But tactical nukes seems like a slippery slope excuse to use nukes in regular warfare. Or in Russia's case, a way to cause a nuclear disaster, but on a small enough scale that NATO won't feel it's worth it to retaliate. I see this just continuing to escalate, as Putin keeps tightening the ratchet and seeing how many lines he can cross. Trump already demonstrated to him how effective it is against American culture. No matter what he does, as long as he isn't dropping ICBMs on any NATO country, we're just going to tell him "that wasn't very nice." And that's not a criticism of anybody, it's just a weakness in our philosophy that he is well aware of and is going to exploit. I don't know how we're going to get out of this mess. I wonder if Putin has a device hooked up to his heart and nukes start flying as soon as his heart stops. He really doesn't seem to give a shit about anybody. I really wonder what drives this guy. He seems so emotionless. I assume he is just a short tempered guy who is constantly pissed off at the world. Really sad that countries have no way of keeping people like that from running for office.
Their targets show the world how bad they're losing, they have to bomb children and maternity wards and sleeping soldiers. They aren't fooling anyone. Slava Ukraini, my heart for you.
Its sad the troops died and I’m not trying to disrespect they’re deaths in any way but why were the soldiers stationed at the barracks? When war breaks out military bases will be the first targets. What usually happens is the soldiers hike into the mountains and forests to better protect themselves and spilt up into smaller groups so they’re too small of a target to be worth attacking from air. ( Ik this from my parents who both were in the army(conscripted)). I just don’t understand why the Ukrainian commanders would keep they’re troops in barracks in the middle of a war if the base isn’t well protected from an air attack. Once again this is sad lose of life , however, it’s a war so such things sadly will happen.
What will it take for Putin to give up this stupid idea of returning to the Soviet Union? It collapsed for many reasons, none of which I have seen anyone get close to attempting to rectify
Ukraine cannot win by fighting. Their leaders know ny now the West will win economically, so fighting is just sacrificing lives. Ukraine can choose not to fight here, and still win long term with minimal lives lost. Sad to see this failure of leadership playing into another era of arms manufacturer profits when the West has made it clear they will fight using the modern means of economics
You underestimate Putin. If the Ukrainians do not fight, Ukraine independence is over, tens of thousands (maybe more) wiil be eliminated. Ukrainians will be virtual slave labor to clear up the destruction so Russians can move into Ukraine and Russify it. In Stalin's attempt to purge Ukrainians sense of ethnic identity, almost 4 million died. Putin wants to finish what Stalin attempted.
The West doesn't have a reason to continue the sanctions if Ukraine loses. Russia isn't there to conquer Ukraine, they're there to install a regime that is loyal to Putin. Once they get that, they'll leave and there won't be any reason for the West to continue an economic war. Ukraine has to last long enough for Russia to collapse.
I know Ukrainians are putting up a good fight but are mostly defensive. Do they have missiles that they could fire at Moscow? Or would that just make them just like their enemy?
They have very few offensive armaments, that's kind of the point. Ukraine is not a threat to russia, their military was geared to territorial defence, no conquest.
It would, and they're not exactly short of targets closer to home. Why blow up a couple of rando Russians in the capital (if they could even get it through Russian air defense)
Hey EU countries, don't wait in line for your turn to get attacked. If you had stopped Hitler early, that war would have been small. Learn your lesson, GangBang Putin now.
Coming from a country that was occupied by Russians, i would more than anything like for the world to send armies to help Ukraine. But can’t ignore the fact it would result in an actual nuclear war and the world is not prepared for that despite Ukrainian sacrifice. If Hitler had nuclear weapons he probably would have gotten away with it. If not for that I think it would be all over by now. As sad as it sounds, people outside Ukraine don’t realize potential impact. Of course for Ukrainians there’s little to lose so I totally understand their side.
Sorry, but zylensky needs to sue for peace. Now's not the time to be acting a maverick and cowboy. Sign the peace deal. Keep away from NATO. Far to many Ukranians have died for some bs.
Why does everyone seem to care more about this war than all the others that are happening/have recently happened? And why such a one-sided presentation of a very complex context?
OMfG, this bullshit Has to stop!! These poor soldiers and their families! And all the poor citizens who don't have homes anymore!! Puttin the Puto is like another Hitler and MUST.BE STOPPED!!
Useless thoughts and prayers don’t help. Time for west to end this farce and get in the ring . All the anti intervention people can’t give us a reasonable off ramp to end this war
Id like to see an international treaty that forces all leaders that deploy the military need to complete and automatic standardized test of mwmtal fitness.
It's horrendous, the Russian government are scum and it appears that the armed forces are barbaric animals with the way they target civilians. In the three weeks since this started it's only the second legitimate military target they seem to have hit. Guess there were no fleeing civilians to shoot at.
A soldier called Alexander, who survived the attack, said he was awaken by the sound of explosions early in the morning…
Elder Kremlin Gremlin
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Speaking as a male who is legitimately 5'2-5'3 at best(1% height percentile), I can manage 5'6-5'7 easily with steel toes and a baseball cap. Don't count us short dudes out, fuck Putin.
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Lol, wow. I was accused of body shaming Putin for saying he’s short. Reddit on some days…….
Equally.
50 bodies recovered so far. Horrible.
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I'm surprised Russia is attacking military targets.
Probably a swing and a miss on the day care center that is next door.
I don't quite get it.. You are under attack by people who attack literally everything.. It's a military target, so in theory a primary target.. and you keep people sleeping in a place that can't sustain an attack?
Yeh, I was wondering why they're reporting that military targets are being attacked.
Yeah, surprised me too. Seems like for every actual military target Russia hits, there’s eighty preschools.
They target everything that move so...
Beat me to it
Of course Russia is attacking military targets. You just don’t hear about Ukrainian military losses often in western media’s created bubble.
Surprised this barracks wasn't hidden in a school, hospital, or power plant.
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It was probably beside a daycare and they missed the daycare.
Hitting a barrack at night away from the front line is barely a military target.
Probably just a response to Ukraine's claims that they only attack civilians. And I don't mean to discredit the tragedy of all this whatsoever.
Shelling soldiers while they're asleep is actually pretty brave for the Russian army. They usually just target civilians.
Not that Russia deserves fair consideration at this point, but it should be noted that Ukraine has been bombing Russians sleeping in their tanks during night drone missions since the war started.
Ukraine has been devastating them at night.
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We call people heroes but I wouldn't feel like a hero with permanent tinnitus and half my face blown off. We get to go on living our lives but they are dead and injured. We should support them of course. It just seems not good enough to give them a round of applause and then back to Netflix. But what else can we do? Oof my feels
how does the act of dying in their beds make them hero’s? they’re no more hero’s than the russians burning to death in outdated tanks are. what they are, are victims of another pointless war.
I’m wondering why they would concentrate such a large number of soldiers in one area when there are known Russian agents who could direct an attack.
I believe it was mostly new recruits including foreign volunteers. It could have been a training ground.
It’s currently 30 degrees in Kyiv Ukrainian. So below freezing, if they are in a war zone and there is only one building to take shelter in, you bet they are going to sleep in that building. The alternative is losing bodies to the cold every night.
Because it's only a military in name. Let's be serious y'all, Ukraine is calling on anyone with a coat, who can hold a rifle. This is not some kind of pretty, gentleman's war. It's a bullshit proxy war involving one of the supposed super-powers that can't keep their tanks running. The yokels on the Russian side are doing what they're paid for because they can't eat otherwise. There is nothing is this entire situation that shows any kind of military intelligence.
It sounds like there might be bunkers for civilians to sleep in. You might think why not just put military combatants there. But doing so would make it a military target.
I was surprised to learn that too. I thought such things were used during non-war times.
Why do they keep sleeping in large barracks as a group? I could see groups of like 10 or 12 but why 80 and 200? Even in bunkers you know Russia has bunker busting bombs...
It was a training camp for young recruits with minimal experience. Probably hard to train in little groups logistically. Good lesson for them now, hope they don’t make same mistake.
Russia may have lost something like
Genuine question here, what was the size of Ukraine’s army before this whole thing started and how many have they lost? I know Russia sent like, 180k troops here so while 7k isn’t bad, at the absolute best possible scenario (only 100k troops) then Ukraine has killed 7% of the armed forces of their opponent.
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Did you Know germany under Hitler Lost 92,000 just in odessa Back in 1941. Why is 7000 a big deal?
I just read the location of the barracks was discovered due to British soldiers cell phones broadcasting their location. Bummer if true
That was an attack that took place last week at a different base.
thats been happening on both sides and its more evidence towards the fact that maybe its not a good idea for everyone to have a device that can be used to track their location. for example, ukrainian forces were able to locate a russian general and kill him because they tracked an unencrypted phone call that he made
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Rule of war. Don’t stay in type groups.
Guess they missed the children's hospital
Someone needs to stop the terrorist Putin. He sits protected like a coward while he destroys the beautiful people and country of Ukraine. He’s a coward and a terrorist.
I was deployed to Iraq and took many direct and indirect fire. However, it was a rocket attack while I was asleep that got to me the most. We were bombarded with rockets one night and the closest round landed maybe 50 yards from me. I then went to bed each night wondering if I would wake the next, it’s a scary feeling
When will Putin get his comeuppance? Hope he gets rabies.
I vote for tetanus, though it is more treatable. If they couldn't figure out what it was, that would be a fun ride for old Putin!
The way he's been acting, I think he already has that.
Just a few weeks ago the location where they slept was safely and internationally recognized as their own territory. They are being killed in their own homes. I know they were soldiers in a barracks but god they are defending their own country. Fuck you Putin fucking troll
Prayers to the family of these heroes who protected what’s important to them...
"As they slept"
It's meant to make it sound more 'evil' but just a day ago they were reporting
Umm why are people giving this the Wholesome award
This is the real world, not a video game or simulation, it’s entirely possible “the bad guy” will come out on top of the global order.
Russia will ultimately come out stronger as they’ll most likely have a reduced presence of western companies. This will lessen western influence in Russia and strengthen the ruling class there if they’re able to fill the void those western companies left
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Well... yeah. That seems pretty normal for war.
Did they miss a hospital?
Russia: “We have the right to revoke the sovereignty of any previous soviet nation.” This is something Vladimir Putin actually said. We are seeing first hand that it’s true.
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Wow, they got lucky. Hit soldiers, for once. They must have thought it was a civilian shelter. /s
These are going to get worse and I get the impression Russia is just getting started.
It gets really scary when you learn the difference between strategic nukes and tactical nukes. Most people think of nukes as world ending superweapons that nobody would be crazy enough to use. But tactical nukes seems like a slippery slope excuse to use nukes in regular warfare. Or in Russia's case, a way to cause a nuclear disaster, but on a small enough scale that NATO won't feel it's worth it to retaliate. I see this just continuing to escalate, as Putin keeps tightening the ratchet and seeing how many lines he can cross. Trump already demonstrated to him how effective it is against American culture. No matter what he does, as long as he isn't dropping ICBMs on any NATO country, we're just going to tell him "that wasn't very nice." And that's not a criticism of anybody, it's just a weakness in our philosophy that he is well aware of and is going to exploit. I don't know how we're going to get out of this mess. I wonder if Putin has a device hooked up to his heart and nukes start flying as soon as his heart stops. He really doesn't seem to give a shit about anybody. I really wonder what drives this guy. He seems so emotionless. I assume he is just a short tempered guy who is constantly pissed off at the world. Really sad that countries have no way of keeping people like that from running for office.
At least they died fighting to protect their loved ones and home from a thug and his murdering minions. Not like the Russian soldiers dying.
Yeah tell there families that.
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Fuck the Russian invaders, fuck Putin.
Their targets show the world how bad they're losing, they have to bomb children and maternity wards and sleeping soldiers. They aren't fooling anyone. Slava Ukraini, my heart for you.
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Wow. They actually targeted a military facility.
Its sad the troops died and I’m not trying to disrespect they’re deaths in any way but why were the soldiers stationed at the barracks? When war breaks out military bases will be the first targets. What usually happens is the soldiers hike into the mountains and forests to better protect themselves and spilt up into smaller groups so they’re too small of a target to be worth attacking from air. ( Ik this from my parents who both were in the army(conscripted)). I just don’t understand why the Ukrainian commanders would keep they’re troops in barracks in the middle of a war if the base isn’t well protected from an air attack. Once again this is sad lose of life , however, it’s a war so such things sadly will happen.
Were they the professional army or the volunteers I wonder, tragic either way. Nonsense war.
This is the first time I saw news that isn't "Ukraine killing 1 million Russian soldiers" or "Russians checking off Geneva Convention 100% speedrun".
The Ukrainian army is actually 20 miles outside of Moscow right now, don’t believe the Russian propaganda! Heil - ahem - slava Ukraini!
oh russians are attacking military targets now? isn't that different
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this is war, what are you all expecting?
What's the point of this dumb comment? People aren't allowed to report relevant news or comment on it?
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Rusky soldiers sleeping in the country they invaded and were not wanted in.
We can despise unnecessary death in any form, but it’s a lil extra sad when it’s the side defending their homeland
Uhhh, the double standard could be easily explained by the fact that we're defending ourselves? Lmao
BOTH SIDES! It's almost like one country is invading and the other is defending. Nuances are hard
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Must have been an accident from Russia; there were no children in the barracks...
What will it take for Putin to give up this stupid idea of returning to the Soviet Union? It collapsed for many reasons, none of which I have seen anyone get close to attempting to rectify
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The entire invasion is illegitimate and illegal. There are no legitimate or legal targets.
The only nazi at this point is putin. I hope Ukraine wins this war
They were sleeping in a war zone, why is this news?
Russia declared their whole country a war zone, where were they supposed to sleep?!
Russia probably thought it was a hospital/school.
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R.I.P to all the Ukrainians soldiers! “WOLVERINES!”
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Is it common for troops to sleep nearby military targets, like ammunition storage?
Barracks are normally part of military bases, military bases tend to have armouries.
Is it normal for the militart to stay in their barracks during war time? Seems like a pretty obvious target.
I can’t imagine sleeping in Barricks right now. Whoever billeted them in a giant target is an asshole.
why are they still in their barracks?!
Because they were asleep.
This breaks my heart. May these defenders rest in peace. Death to the invaders.
Eh, death to the leading forces within the attackers.
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Because as much as Russia likes to talk about people attacking them, no one is going to attack on Russian soil.
Ukraine cannot win by fighting. Their leaders know ny now the West will win economically, so fighting is just sacrificing lives. Ukraine can choose not to fight here, and still win long term with minimal lives lost. Sad to see this failure of leadership playing into another era of arms manufacturer profits when the West has made it clear they will fight using the modern means of economics
You underestimate Putin. If the Ukrainians do not fight, Ukraine independence is over, tens of thousands (maybe more) wiil be eliminated. Ukrainians will be virtual slave labor to clear up the destruction so Russians can move into Ukraine and Russify it. In Stalin's attempt to purge Ukrainians sense of ethnic identity, almost 4 million died. Putin wants to finish what Stalin attempted.
Someone with comments as weird as yours should take a break from the Internet.
The West doesn't have a reason to continue the sanctions if Ukraine loses. Russia isn't there to conquer Ukraine, they're there to install a regime that is loyal to Putin. Once they get that, they'll leave and there won't be any reason for the West to continue an economic war. Ukraine has to last long enough for Russia to collapse.
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I have a game for anyone encountering this comment. Think of 3 subreddits this person posts on regularly without looking.
I know Ukrainians are putting up a good fight but are mostly defensive. Do they have missiles that they could fire at Moscow? Or would that just make them just like their enemy?
Yeah, imagine what would retaliation for an attack on Moscow look like.
They have very few offensive armaments, that's kind of the point. Ukraine is not a threat to russia, their military was geared to territorial defence, no conquest.
It would, and they're not exactly short of targets closer to home. Why blow up a couple of rando Russians in the capital (if they could even get it through Russian air defense)
Firing a missile a Moscow could not be a worse idea. Talk about a sure fire way to guarantee that all civilians will suddenly start supporting the war
Moscow is mostly civilians
Modern warfare really sucks.
Yeah. Back in the good old days they would have been gassed in their trenches. Much better.
I wonder if this is cell phone related.
Congrats Russia. You so strong! Should be proud of your strength! Putin must be giving you all medals.
Republicans are celebrating
Yes this thread was definitely about american politics, everyone else just didnt get the memo
could you please elaborate
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Russia did it! After more than two weeks, they hit a military target!! Someone should get them something to commemorate.
Ukraine needs to start sending missiles into Moscow. Return some favors.
Hey EU countries, don't wait in line for your turn to get attacked. If you had stopped Hitler early, that war would have been small. Learn your lesson, GangBang Putin now.
NATO and Europe since the end of the Cold War: We will defend all NATO members if they are attacked but will not otherwise attack a nuclear power.
Coming from a country that was occupied by Russians, i would more than anything like for the world to send armies to help Ukraine. But can’t ignore the fact it would result in an actual nuclear war and the world is not prepared for that despite Ukrainian sacrifice. If Hitler had nuclear weapons he probably would have gotten away with it. If not for that I think it would be all over by now. As sad as it sounds, people outside Ukraine don’t realize potential impact. Of course for Ukrainians there’s little to lose so I totally understand their side.
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Was this the one where a bunch of volunteers had their phones on?
nope that was last week
No, different attack.
I remember as kid hearing about how am Iraqi barracks was hit at night. I'm guessing it was in the first war. Felt so bad for them. Waste of life
All that is senseless. And sad.
Might be a good time to not sleep in a military facility at this time
Everyone on reddit loved putin and thought he was "alpha" in 2018. Fast forward a few years, and reddit forgot all about it.
Ukrainians are really fighting hard and well for the most part, but mistakes will be made. You learn the easy way or the really hard way in combat.
If Russians is so bloodthirsty as you say, why they didn't put a second rocket in this mess when there would be a lot of noncombat targets, eh?
Lol because they got lucky it hit the target the 1st time obvs.
I mean, what else do YOU propose? That they are not as bloodthirsty? Don’t know into what direction you’re tryna go here bud
may those who passed rest in peace <3
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Different base, different attack, different date.
Sorry, but zylensky needs to sue for peace. Now's not the time to be acting a maverick and cowboy. Sign the peace deal. Keep away from NATO. Far to many Ukranians have died for some bs.
Why are you talking like you're saying something controversial? Zelensky has just released a statement saying exactly the same thing.
Russians are such Cowards, they have to wait for their enemy to be asleep.
So the Ukrainians are cowards too then? They’ve been targeting sleeping russians.
Is it really ok to put so many soldiers in one building during a war?
Now they can finally say they fired at a military target...
They were probably aiming for the orphanage nearby but missed…
For every Ukrainian murdered by this invasion, I pray an acre of sunflowers overtakes Russian soil.
Stop trying to make fetch happen
There was a Wagner nazi cunt in and around the barracks. He called in the strike. So difficult to fully protect against this kind of thing.
In other news, soldiers die in wars.
Why does everyone seem to care more about this war than all the others that are happening/have recently happened? And why such a one-sided presentation of a very complex context?
Well - the scale is largely unprecedented in this decade (the Gulf Wars also got vast coverage).
Because propaganda is extremely powerful
OMfG, this bullshit Has to stop!! These poor soldiers and their families! And all the poor citizens who don't have homes anymore!! Puttin the Puto is like another Hitler and MUST.BE STOPPED!!
Useless thoughts and prayers don’t help. Time for west to end this farce and get in the ring . All the anti intervention people can’t give us a reasonable off ramp to end this war
Yes, let's end civilization as we know it. Great idea
So go over there
Heads up guys, we got an American here. Don’t you have garbage to burn in a oil drum downtown or something?
The mighty Russia on its knees in front of Ukraine.
lmao
Id like to see an international treaty that forces all leaders that deploy the military need to complete and automatic standardized test of mwmtal fitness.
Are you thinking Putin wouldn’t be able to pass a simple mental health test?
It's horrendous, the Russian government are scum and it appears that the armed forces are barbaric animals with the way they target civilians. In the three weeks since this started it's only the second legitimate military target they seem to have hit. Guess there were no fleeing civilians to shoot at.
Fake Russian propaganda news. Ukraine forces actually pushed Russian forces 70kms away from Kyiv recently.
Yes, because both reports can't be legitimate.