It has nothing to do with relegation. It has everything to do with the culture not being about football/soccer. Our athletes just don’t play soccer. I know it’s fucking stupid to say and a cliche but you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think it’s true.
Doesn’t work in the United States. Owners like the haslems would never buy in and invest if there is a chance they are playing teams in the second league. People like me wouldn’t go to games to watch them play in the second league
Lol, life quality is a lot better in the Netherlands compared to the usa. Healthier food, better infrastructure better health care. We are good in football because almost every boy and/or girl join a soccer team at young age.
This reminds me of delusional people online who said if US put their NBA athletes into football it would be a walk in the park. It's about skill folks, not athleticism. Even if it was athleticism, it's a different type of athleticism sport to sport
So you are saying America just doesn’t produce that type of athlete?? Lol you are all so daft if you think that all the defensive backs in the nfl couldn’t play soccer if they were trained from the right age or taken from school and put in a fucking soccer academy as a toddler.
We still don't watch the game. What our competitors have internalized before their first kick, we learn as a second language years later. We need a coach for everything while others use the game as a coach. Kids elsewhere can learn on the street because there's always a game and they watch at home. We have pay for play because we don't have the cultural support for organic development
The idea is more that if it were more popular or more respected domestically than you would be taking a lot of athletes that fit that specific type of athleticism and giving them the training at the proper age. There are plenty of basketball, American football, and baseball players that are choosing to play something other than soccer and will never be properly trained as footballers even if they pick it up later in life or fail at whichever sport they decided to play. Some of that has changed though and we finally have some decent youth academies and are producing players domestically (Philadelphia).
It’s not delusional if you’re talking about putting them in soccer at a young age instead of basketball. One of the biggest hurdles for soccer in the US is the fact that other sports (namely American football and baseball) hog youth athletes. If soccer was the number one sport in this country we’d be much more competitive.
It’s a fact the the States best athletes play sports other than soccer, if you don’t agree with it you should spend more time watching American sports at a collegiate and professional level.
I feel like generally our baseball players would make for better soccer players, no? Generally shorter, anyway. Can't see Anthony Davis or LeBron James doing anything particularly inspiring on the pitch, except maybe at keeper lol
Huh weird, 35% of the last 15 years NBA MVPS have gone to foreign nationals, do you have any suggestions to make the US better at basketball that’s a pretty embarrassing stat!
See you guys are so thin skinned you make it too easy for us to take the piss. Just lighten up a bit, and work on your banter, because jingoistic nonsense about sports nobody gives a shit about besides Americans isn't exactly a great clap back.
Delighted the Dutch won! Honestly they still looked fresh as daisies at the end - they looked like they were trying to conserve energy for the next round. They knew they didn't have to play all-out to beat the US and they were proven right. A well-deserved win and a masterclass in game management.
John Wayne, Die Hard, Proud Boys, Westboro Baptist Church, Chris Brown, Donald Trump, Butterbean, Macklemore, Ariana Grande, The Punisher, Rosie O'Donnell, Bart Simpson.. your boys took one hell of a beating!!!
On the off-chance that someone from the USMNT ever reads the depths of Reddit comments… so damn proud of this team! Tough match today, 3 mistakes all game did us in. My heart has never been more “in” for a team, saw the best skilled USMNT I’ve ever seen in this tournament. End the talk of “we have made progress” next time, let’s get to “this team has arrived”!!
I love how Americans are simultaneously shitting on their team and country so much but then also claim they'd dominate every sport if they just invested enough.
I mean tbf if the us had the footballing culture of a Brazil/Argentina/Mexico/Spain we’d be the biggest(by population) footballing nation by a mile. The us already has a rabid, deeply ingrained sports culture that absolutely churns out athletes and it’s hard to deny that if that culture was focused on football (and had been for 100+ years) the us would certainly be very competitive in international competition. It’s a useless hypothetical and you can say the same for both India and China based purely on population, but it’s also true ¯\(ツ)/¯
Lots of people praise Westin, but honestly I think he looks slow and sloppy. Gave away a number of balls. Tyler Adams didn’t have his best defensive game obviously. At least Wright and aaronsen bring some speed and creativity to the pitch.
Weston IS legit though. He literally just came back from injury right before the tournament and was never fully match fit. So yeah, it’s no surprise if you saw a tired player.
You're right. It's not a real sport unless people wear helmets, run into each other and then have 5 minute technical briefing during a mid-game commercial break to figure out a way to immediately run into the other team again. And repeat the whole process again and again.
It’s crazy that the Netherlands have played in more semifinals and finals than Spain and England combined and never won it. Probably the Greatest country to never win the World Cup
It hurts so much. I was 9 during the world cup final of 2010 and still remember it so vividly. Still hope to see us lift that trophy during my lifetime
You realize that you guys are quickly replacing us as the hated, insufferable country, right? I've run into plenty of Europeans who will just randomly start hating on English people completely unprovoked.
I was born in the Netherlands and wanted the USA to play a good game. Unfortunately the USA doesn’t have a good goal scorer and had serious trouble putting shots on the goal. To many waisted opportunities.
As an American I'm honestly surprised we made it to the elimination round. Nothing salty here just glad we made it as far as we did. Good luck to all teams going forward though. I have a friend from South Korea so I'll be watching them next
I played goalkeeper. The lack of Turner telling his men to mark up was insufferable. He was watching the ball all game and not commanding his defense to fill the holes.
simple basic takeaway: US is desperate for a truly talented forward, all tournament they were great at getting opportunities created but zero, dedicated clinical finisher or target man. Netherlands may have won 3:1 but never truly looked convincing as a european favorite. I think their first game against a truly good team is going to expose them. I saw confusion in the back line at times that would have lead to being scored on by a better team.
I agree that we're not good enough to win the world cup, but I'd say we looked a lot better than England when they played the US. Had an easier time creating chances, and much more in control defensively. Only major problem is our passing, we lose the ball way too easily
Some of the Americans on this thread are obnoxious, but so are all the Europeans who feel they have to take every opportunity to bash the US. What's the obsession?
Trash talking the other team while being an insufferable twat about your own is the #1 sports related past time in America; the sports themselves are secondary.
They're taking their opportunities while they can, because if the US really starts investing in football they may become a very good team who will probably be insufferable if they win.
The Dutch were so efficient and clinical. They can play so many different styles and dictate tempo when they choose. They may be hard to beat for anyone. Even if we had played our best match, it feels they would’ve been able to match or beat it. Kudos to the Dutch and their fans, you deserve one!
You don't have to leave 100 comments about how much 'soccer' sucks. Yes fine, we know. Us poor third world Europeans, South Americans, Africans, Asians play this sport. We are all stinky terrorists and the Americans are the beacon of this world. Now go back to your handegg sub
I hate to admit it, but I was thinking the same thing watching. The Dutch goals were boring as hell, just passes in front of the goal, and our only goal was pure luck. I really don't understand how this is the most popular sport in the world, probably because it's so cheap to play.
Im just happy the Fox commentator's wont speak about the US every 5 minutes while Im tryna watch a game. Shits annoying as hell
Nederland forward! We won, we will take back new Netherlands
Man, I’m so glad we lost.
We would have gotten humiliated in the next match if we somehow won. The other teams are on a whole nother level.
Pulisic is overrated
when did anyone ever say he was really good lol
Fuck fifa
Mad you lsot?
USA more like LSA
Haven’t watched the game yet, please don’t spoil it
US won.
Its called voetbal now you americans
At least it sounds like it’s referencing democracy
Sweet! Fantastic outcome!
If want to be competitive in the Worldcup they need to add relegation to the MLS.
Aren’t all the games in other regions fixed by organized crime?
It has nothing to do with relegation. It has everything to do with the culture not being about football/soccer. Our athletes just don’t play soccer. I know it’s fucking stupid to say and a cliche but you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think it’s true.
ConCACAf
Doesn’t work in the United States. Owners like the haslems would never buy in and invest if there is a chance they are playing teams in the second league. People like me wouldn’t go to games to watch them play in the second league
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That isn't true. America just doesn't value soccer. Most people I talked to today didn't even know the game was today, let alone the result.
I think you meant Revelations. 🙏
Make me coach… seriously give me a chance.
Fire Berhalter.
…really?
I am looking forward to seeing the national team in 2026. I hope more US players get to compete in highly competitive leagues like Pulisic did.
Well...I expected this
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*football Sorry Europe is not fulled of fat people, and we can play outside without getting shot.
Lol, life quality is a lot better in the Netherlands compared to the usa. Healthier food, better infrastructure better health care. We are good in football because almost every boy and/or girl join a soccer team at young age.
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US qualifies to R16 and loses to a clearly superior Dutch squad
No need for you to fight about it...you both fucking suck.
As an American, I'm more surprised the men's team made it to the cup at all. Let alone the first block
Well, England does suck.
Yes
This reminds me of delusional people online who said if US put their NBA athletes into football it would be a walk in the park. It's about skill folks, not athleticism. Even if it was athleticism, it's a different type of athleticism sport to sport
So you are saying America just doesn’t produce that type of athlete?? Lol you are all so daft if you think that all the defensive backs in the nfl couldn’t play soccer if they were trained from the right age or taken from school and put in a fucking soccer academy as a toddler.
We still don't watch the game. What our competitors have internalized before their first kick, we learn as a second language years later. We need a coach for everything while others use the game as a coach. Kids elsewhere can learn on the street because there's always a game and they watch at home. We have pay for play because we don't have the cultural support for organic development
The idea is more that if it were more popular or more respected domestically than you would be taking a lot of athletes that fit that specific type of athleticism and giving them the training at the proper age. There are plenty of basketball, American football, and baseball players that are choosing to play something other than soccer and will never be properly trained as footballers even if they pick it up later in life or fail at whichever sport they decided to play. Some of that has changed though and we finally have some decent youth academies and are producing players domestically (Philadelphia).
It’s not delusional if you’re talking about putting them in soccer at a young age instead of basketball. One of the biggest hurdles for soccer in the US is the fact that other sports (namely American football and baseball) hog youth athletes. If soccer was the number one sport in this country we’d be much more competitive.
It’s a fact the the States best athletes play sports other than soccer, if you don’t agree with it you should spend more time watching American sports at a collegiate and professional level.
I feel like generally our baseball players would make for better soccer players, no? Generally shorter, anyway. Can't see Anthony Davis or LeBron James doing anything particularly inspiring on the pitch, except maybe at keeper lol
Literally 1984
Easiest 2.0 betting odds I've ever played
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Huh weird, 35% of the last 15 years NBA MVPS have gone to foreign nationals, do you have any suggestions to make the US better at basketball that’s a pretty embarrassing stat!
ShitAmericansSay
I wonder where the last couple of MVP in the nba are from? Maybe you know?
soccercirclejerk
Some next like cope going on here.
Murica!
US doesn’t dominate anyone in ticket prices that’s for sure
This is so weird
Is this satire?
See you guys are so thin skinned you make it too easy for us to take the piss. Just lighten up a bit, and work on your banter, because jingoistic nonsense about sports nobody gives a shit about besides Americans isn't exactly a great clap back.
My brother in christ, being better than England isn't the flex you think it is
Delighted the Dutch won! Honestly they still looked fresh as daisies at the end - they looked like they were trying to conserve energy for the next round. They knew they didn't have to play all-out to beat the US and they were proven right. A well-deserved win and a masterclass in game management.
1.89 to 1.85 xg - so yes, with a bit better defending and finishing we could have won this game...
John Wayne, Die Hard, Proud Boys, Westboro Baptist Church, Chris Brown, Donald Trump, Butterbean, Macklemore, Ariana Grande, The Punisher, Rosie O'Donnell, Bart Simpson.. your boys took one hell of a beating!!!
On the off-chance that someone from the USMNT ever reads the depths of Reddit comments… so damn proud of this team! Tough match today, 3 mistakes all game did us in. My heart has never been more “in” for a team, saw the best skilled USMNT I’ve ever seen in this tournament. End the talk of “we have made progress” next time, let’s get to “this team has arrived”!!
Agree with you, but you need a better trainer!
Pro tip: ban all the idiots here from the other side of the sea to make the sub closer to bearable
So all the Europeans then?
I refuse to agree until you declare which side of the sea you’re on
Which sea? The Caspian?
The sport needs a major overhaul if it wants to up the entertainment value. A few suggestions:
If we would play hockey, you would lose as well.
I think muricans already have something like this. Not fun.
Some good, mostly bad
Idk the wheel looks pretty good to me
fuck off yankee scum
Lmao
I love how Americans are simultaneously shitting on their team and country so much but then also claim they'd dominate every sport if they just invested enough.
They had to invent their own sports because they were shit at the real ones
Listen, the World Cup brings out the good, the bad and the casuals for everyone.
I mean tbf if the us had the footballing culture of a Brazil/Argentina/Mexico/Spain we’d be the biggest(by population) footballing nation by a mile. The us already has a rabid, deeply ingrained sports culture that absolutely churns out athletes and it’s hard to deny that if that culture was focused on football (and had been for 100+ years) the us would certainly be very competitive in international competition. It’s a useless hypothetical and you can say the same for both India and China based purely on population, but it’s also true ¯\(ツ)/¯
I really don’t think Americans claim that.
Netherlands wont even qualify for the World Series.
Actually, the Netherlands have never won the Fifa WC, but they have gotten the world title with baseball.
its okay guys the superbowl is coming up
Is the superbowl international?
Showed more intent than Germany
That was painful to watch ngl, may watch again in 4 years' time.
Lots of people praise Westin, but honestly I think he looks slow and sloppy. Gave away a number of balls. Tyler Adams didn’t have his best defensive game obviously. At least Wright and aaronsen bring some speed and creativity to the pitch.
Wright, speed? Hardly. If he had any (and a decent touch), he would have had 3 goals this game.
Weston IS legit though. He literally just came back from injury right before the tournament and was never fully match fit. So yeah, it’s no surprise if you saw a tired player.
Wright is terrible and Aaronson had his worst game of the tournament.
Yunus Musah's heat map is just a rectangle coloured the deepest shade of red.
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You're right. It's not a real sport unless people wear helmets, run into each other and then have 5 minute technical briefing during a mid-game commercial break to figure out a way to immediately run into the other team again. And repeat the whole process again and again.
bro get a job lmao
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It’s crazy that the Netherlands have played in more semifinals and finals than Spain and England combined and never won it. Probably the Greatest country to never win the World Cup
As an argie myself I strongly agree. They are clinical, efficient , they don’t play with fouls, it’s the only European team I root for until Friday…
Yeah since Spain's win I think they are pretty undoubtedly the best to never win
It hurts so much. I was 9 during the world cup final of 2010 and still remember it so vividly. Still hope to see us lift that trophy during my lifetime
There’s a reason we’re called Never Netherlands
I sometimes forget that the Dutch National Anthem is actually a real thing and not just the F1 end-of-race theme song for the last 2 years.
We really lost to the team with Zwarte Piet as a major cultural icon
William of Orange? The king?. Zwarte piet used to be a minor part of a single holiday.
Hes mostly gone
Holy shit some of the takes in here are so bad they’re funny.
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Arsenal is a decent club
Our biggest threats in the box are our San Fernando Valley pornstars.
it doesn’t matter if our midfield is young and athletic when we have 0 goal scorers that put fear into anyone decent.
I don't think the biggest problem was your attack, it was the defense.
At least future match threads will be less full of insufferable American cunts. Thank you Holland.
English are worse imo
You realize that you guys are quickly replacing us as the hated, insufferable country, right? I've run into plenty of Europeans who will just randomly start hating on English people completely unprovoked.
You’re going through a lot as a Liverpool fan, I can understand your outburst and frustration mister squiggles.
Bro think he speak for everyone 💀
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All the casuals should be gone now
I was born in the Netherlands and wanted the USA to play a good game. Unfortunately the USA doesn’t have a good goal scorer and had serious trouble putting shots on the goal. To many waisted opportunities.
Same. Born and raised near Eindhoven. But I live in the USA. I hoped for a better match.
US needs to fire Berhalter and get a real goalkeeper.
Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football.
Yeah the keeper really cost us today /s
It was The keeper's fault that the defense left a man completely unmarked on all three goals??
Lmao keeper was not the issue
Dont mind me. I'm just hear for the salty yet delicious American tears.
I’m salty that our players refused to mark anyone in the box for any of the goals. That’s 12 year old basics.
We don't expect much. Not many tears get shed over soccer here. I'd say most fans are just proud they made round of 16.
As an American I'm honestly surprised we made it to the elimination round. Nothing salty here just glad we made it as far as we did. Good luck to all teams going forward though. I have a friend from South Korea so I'll be watching them next
There's probably like 8 of them no one gives a shit about the world cup.
The US just lost the most basic skills required in soccer,the ability to man mark.All 3 goals were caused by a lack of marking.
I played goalkeeper. The lack of Turner telling his men to mark up was insufferable. He was watching the ball all game and not commanding his defense to fill the holes.
I have not watched any USMNT games since last world cup and was kind of surprised at the mediocrity of the team.
Seriously. I learned that as a 10 year old: mark the back post.
I wonder what
simple basic takeaway: US is desperate for a truly talented forward, all tournament they were great at getting opportunities created but zero, dedicated clinical finisher or target man. Netherlands may have won 3:1 but never truly looked convincing as a european favorite. I think their first game against a truly good team is going to expose them. I saw confusion in the back line at times that would have lead to being scored on by a better team.
I agree that we're not good enough to win the world cup, but I'd say we looked a lot better than England when they played the US. Had an easier time creating chances, and much more in control defensively. Only major problem is our passing, we lose the ball way too easily
Yep, dutch team is average with a few players above average.
Some of the Americans on this thread are obnoxious, but so are all the Europeans who feel they have to take every opportunity to bash the US. What's the obsession?
Trash talking the other team while being an insufferable twat about your own is the #1 sports related past time in America; the sports themselves are secondary.
They're taking their opportunities while they can, because if the US really starts investing in football they may become a very good team who will probably be insufferable if they win.
The Dutch were so efficient and clinical. They can play so many different styles and dictate tempo when they choose. They may be hard to beat for anyone. Even if we had played our best match, it feels they would’ve been able to match or beat it. Kudos to the Dutch and their fans, you deserve one!
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cope
You don't have to leave 100 comments about how much 'soccer' sucks. Yes fine, we know. Us poor third world Europeans, South Americans, Africans, Asians play this sport. We are all stinky terrorists and the Americans are the beacon of this world. Now go back to your handegg sub
Ratio
Embarrassing.
Clueless. The athletes in mls academies are great. The work is happening day by day
In The Netherlands we have a decent football team and still win 36 medals on the latest Olympic Games in other sports.
As American: shhh.
Cope + seethe
Alright I’m team Hup Holland for the rest of the tournament 🇳🇱
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My guy. What in the star spangled fuck are you talking about?
I hate to admit it, but I was thinking the same thing watching. The Dutch goals were boring as hell, just passes in front of the goal, and our only goal was pure luck. I really don't understand how this is the most popular sport in the world, probably because it's so cheap to play.
Real, “I don’t understand it so it must suck” energy over here…
lack of athleticism my ass, fucking yanks
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Certainly not in their food…
US: What’s this “box” you speak of?
Hoping for an Argentina vs Portugal final Messi vs Ronaldo one last time
If I want to see two forty year olds jog/walk/stand for an hour and a half I will go down to the local park for a men’s softball game.
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And you’re the only one that care about those other sports 😭😭😭
Ah yes, the fine arts of 'bad mitten'. If you want to troll, try harder
There is no way you spelled badminton like that.
Not really an excuse when you just lost to a country with 17 mil people
2 draws and a 1-0 win isn’t anything to brag about 😂
You forgot hotdog eating contest.